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297. SCOTUS effectively ruled in favor of DADT.

Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:35 PM

Jan 2012

The SCOTUS ruling happened after Congress put forward their plan to end the law. So SCOTUS decided the suit was moot, since the law in question was being dismantled anyway. But that ruling allowed DADT to remain in force for many more months. Depending on how pedantic one wanted to be, they ruled DADT could remain in force.

"Thus it is inaccurate to say "Republicans ended DADT""

It is also inaccurate to say "Democrats ended DADT". They had their thumb up their asses on that subject until the LCR made them look bad.

And I'm not giving the credit to the Republican party. You are putting words into my mouth.

This is a case where the not-religiously-insane parts of both parties managed to get something done. It just so happens that that portion of the Republican party is quite small. But this is not a clean "D" win.

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Nice job. joshcryer Jan 2012 #124

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I checked the dates and I read, did you? SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #139

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The thing is that vote was after the law was unenforceable. jeff47 Jan 2012 #184

It was still being enforced when the vote happened SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #188

Yes, appeals were pending, which is what I said jeff47 Jan 2012 #190

Not quite what you said SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #194

Now you're being fast and loose jeff47 Jan 2012 #295

Did you read that on Republican Underground? Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #275

What executive order do you think repealed DADT? jeff47 Jan 2012 #296

Timeline is fail. It neglects the hard work of the 111th Congress. joshcryer Jan 2012 #299

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No, it didn't. DADT went into a less strict form, but it was waiting on the SCOTUS. joshcryer Jan 2012 #287

SCOTUS effectively ruled in favor of DADT. jeff47 Jan 2012 #297

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You are bickering over whether the Republicans ended DADT or not jeff47 Jan 2012 #305

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