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Texin

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81. Agreed. Anything positive will/would be blocked in the Senate.

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:09 PM

Nov 2012

I think Obama and Dems are maneuvering and campaigning to draw the rethugs out from now until January 3rd. I don't think they have any reasonable expectation that the rethugs are going to do anything different than they have for the past 4 years. As De Fazio said, the Dems will be better positioned - and hopefully with some filibuster reforms in place - in January to respond the so-called fiscal cliff we're about to plunge off. The rethugs have used this as a scare tactic with their constitutents and manipulated Obama in the past, and now he's turning the tables on them. During this period, the people will see that they're committed to tax fairness and rethugs are doing nothing but digging in the heels for the Blankfeins and Daddy Warbucks of the world. Let's have sundown on this congress and start new in January.

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DeFazio goes on MSNBC, says 'Fuck the fiscal cliff!' Grand Bargain Express wobbles, heads explode! [View all] Poll_Blind Nov 2012 OP

He is Absolutely Right, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #1

+1 xchrom Nov 2012 #2

+1 Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #5

Is it fair to say that this will be a good test to see how Pres Obama will act in the coming rhett o rick Nov 2012 #23

To be fair to the President, I think the answer is "Yes...and no." Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #30

I don't know that Congress (ESPECIALLY a Dem. controlled Senate) will LET him cut a bad deal... Volaris Nov 2012 #43

filibuster decayincl Nov 2012 #69

Agreed, and that's not really a thing I'm afraid of...you? Volaris Nov 2012 #70

Agreed. Anything positive will/would be blocked in the Senate. Texin Nov 2012 #81

+1 and pay to see them is right... with canvassing, donations, and showing up to vote. freshwest Nov 2012 #29

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #38

Yeah, he's one of the few real ones. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #3

All we gotta do is show up between presidential elections and talk to people. freshwest Nov 2012 #31

Easier said than done. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Nov 2012 #46

he is my local guy mozan Nov 2012 #72

Lucky you! Wish I could vote for DeFazio. classof56 Nov 2012 #78

My rep is good too. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #104

violates the principle that we won so have to give repubs their fair share nt msongs Nov 2012 #4

Maybe we should just let him start from scratch . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #6

LOL! I'd forgotten about that one! He's definitely a SCRAPPER! Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #37

Correct, but I don't expect people in DC nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #7

One person can change a room.. butterfly77 Nov 2012 #8

Because the President keeps DeFazio and Democrats like him as FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #17

You're very right it's smoke and mirrors. Keep your eye on Social Security. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #32

Add Shumer to that list.. butterfly77 Nov 2012 #48

Defazio voted against the stimulus. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #54

But you don't dare post anything more, lest others see through your deceit: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #55

What nonsense. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #56

Damn, you read through that real quick-like! Or just fired off a non-descript quip to... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #57

Same crap, and this ProSense Nov 2012 #58

Republicans opposed tax cuts for the rich? LOL! Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #84

No silly, they ProSense Nov 2012 #93

" He's an anti-stimulus deficit hawk " ?... NonSense! bvar22 Nov 2012 #85

He voted against the People's Budget. ProSense Nov 2012 #91

Russ Feingold voted "NO" on the Patriot Act... bvar22 Nov 2012 #94

What the hell does the Patriot Act have to do with the People's Budget? ProSense Nov 2012 #95

That is not a swing and a miss. bvar22 Nov 2012 #96

He voted against the stimulus! ProSense Nov 2012 #97

Another thing, ProSense Nov 2012 #98

More Running & Hiding. bvar22 Nov 2012 #99

"Are you going to pretend that you have never heard of a Symbolic Protest Vote?" ProSense Nov 2012 #100

Pro Sense, have you ever gone fishing, bvar22 Nov 2012 #101

bvar22, your spin isn't working. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #102

I wish I were hearing this from all the Democrats gollygee Nov 2012 #9

There's going to be a battle on, that's for sure. I'm hoping representatives like DeFazio... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #26

I agree with DeFazio. Panasonic Nov 2012 #10

What about the national credit rating? randome Nov 2012 #11

Good question. What do you think? nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #27

And what was the result of that hit? n2doc Nov 2012 #50

He was great. Jansing was nasty. forestpath Nov 2012 #12

The thing I like about DeFazio is he thrives in situations where he's being questioned... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #76

Hurrah for a TRUE Democrat! CanonRay Nov 2012 #13

The National Credit Rating won't take a meaningful hit; just like the last when a rating company byeya Nov 2012 #14

"Bump in the road"...pass it along. Fiscal Cliff. Not. libdem4life Nov 2012 #15

"Bump in the road"...pass it along. Fiscal Cliff. Not. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #49

I love my Oregon Senators and Reps dballance Nov 2012 #16

Did they legalize marijuana or same sex marriage? I love Washington the State. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #28

Unfortunately both those issues ended up in voter's hands as ballot measures dballance Nov 2012 #80

Were you referring to Washington the State? Did you mean fortunately? rhett o rick Nov 2012 #83

They're workin' hard to fight the good fight. Hopefully they won't be... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #79

Hopefully they won't be thwarted by their own party.... bvar22 Nov 2012 #86

Sooo...THAT'S what one looks like deutsey Nov 2012 #18

K&R Hear, hear! n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #19

K&R redqueen Nov 2012 #20

K and R Squinch Nov 2012 #21

I lived in Oregon a short while and was lucky enough to actually vote for him! Gregorian Nov 2012 #22

I love Pete. Bette Noir Nov 2012 #24

DeFazio Rocks and me too fredamae Nov 2012 #52

The Alarm Bells and Sirens are meant to spur the 3rd Way Democrats to fold..as usual. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #25

I VOTED FOR PETE! HE'S MY MAN IN OREGON! HANG TIGHT PETE! zwyziec Nov 2012 #33

I can see DeFazio's point ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #34

let them howl. obama isn't going to be elected to a third term.. frylock Nov 2012 #40

It's not about President Obama being elected to a 3rd term ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #41

But it is silly to think that 'if we say it just right, the Republicans won't criticize the Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #44

K&R !!!!! warrprayer Nov 2012 #35

K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #36

A case of spinaltosis breaks out amongst the Democrats. Historic NY Nov 2012 #39

Hearing his name always reminds me of this Onion piece PD Turk Nov 2012 #42

K&R for a real democrat. zeemike Nov 2012 #47

Yep, speaking as an Oregonian, he does an excellent job here in showing what real liberals think quinnox Nov 2012 #51

DeFazio is a REAL Democrat, very approachable, and does something that all Congresscritters Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #53

The hour is late, the pretenders have cashed in and tomorrow starts soon. Atticus Nov 2012 #59

Peter DeFazio is a great rep! ibegurpard Nov 2012 #60

Ya, IMO you're right about DeFazio making a better senator. Still, I'm... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #62

That's MY rep! nt dhpgetsit Nov 2012 #61

I'm a couple of miles from the district line, in Schrader country. Coyotl Nov 2012 #67

Peter is correct. Besides, the T-Baggers have some other urgent SDjack Nov 2012 #63

You know, it's time we strip the Reagan name from public places and rename for FDR ... SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2012 #92

Democrats need to remember we won this election. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #64

Yeah! Howsabout it! lonestarnot Nov 2012 #65

DeFazio goes on MSNBC, says "No bad deal" and "that's crazy" actually. Coyotl Nov 2012 #66

This is so true... humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #68

NO DEAL this year is the BEST DEAL. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #71

I always loved DeFazio. He's a fighter. We need more fighters in this party. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #73

K&R for acting like we won the election! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #74

Wow, just wow! He kicked ass... Looks like we have another progressive hero! whathehell Nov 2012 #75

Great o/p Poll_Blind pipewrench Nov 2012 #77

. libodem Nov 2012 #82

What he says is true, except right now the President has high support which may change if he waits still_one Nov 2012 #87

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #88

I like your suggestion: We start acting like we won the election.... And DeFazio's suggestion that midnight Nov 2012 #89

Wowsa!! chloes1 Nov 2012 #90

Super Spine libodem Nov 2012 #103