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niyad

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Fri Jun 7, 2024, 01:20 PM Jun 2024

Ohhhh myyyy, we have MUCH more work to do than even I thought!!! On our own [View all]

side, no less.

Last night, I went to our local Drinking Liberally group, with a number of regulars, one former regular, and a newbie. One of the regulars just astounded me going completely off the rails ( in my view, anyway. Not sure if the others saw it quite as starkly as I did.). She started off by saying how Pres. Biden just drove her nuts because he can't talk, can't give a speech, can't seem to think on his feet, looks confused. I pointed out that every one of those statements is a reichwing talking point. She said, "I am not a rightwinger.". I replied, "But you are repeating their talking points. Did you even listen to his State of the Union message?" She didn't even know what I was talking about. Several of the other people also suggested that she google the SOTU. I did not even mention the Valley Forge speech or his D-Day speech.

Her next jaw-dropper was saying that, in her mind, Hunter Biden's case was far more serious than the, in her own words, "itty bitty miniscule" hush money case against #####, and that Hunter deserved a long prison term. And she said that FLOTUS had no business showing up at the trial. The others tried to reason with her, got nowhere.

She had never heard of leonard leo, or the federalist society, or how the handmaid got on the extreme court.

Still later, as we were talking about possible actions after the election, should the awful happen, she asked what would happen if Biden chose to behave like #####, and foment an insurrection. We all pointed out that Biden would not do such a thing. "But what if he does?" she persisted. And how Biden would probably not respond if #### fomented another insurrection.

I kept thinking about a scene in "1776", where Adams is talking to Franklin about how some of the other members are tearing apart Jefferson's draft of the Declaration of Independence. He says, "So far, they have struck out 418 words and three paragraphs. And that is just our friends. God knows what the other side will do." (a bit paraphrased)

All this from one person, in one meeting, one who is self-identified as a Dem. I was appalled and frustrated, and sad. How do we address these levels of ignorance and lack of awareness?

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There are some who claim to be a Dem.......................... Lovie777 Jun 2024 #1
She had not sounded like this in previous meetings. Last night was a shocker. niyad Jun 2024 #3
Sorry, that isn't a dem. Idgaf what she is saying. Those are all GOP cons. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #2
We should purge them from the party TheRealNorth Jun 2024 #5
If she's showing up at Democratic meetings Wednesdays Jun 2024 #12
That's an RT 'Dem'. Russia Today left. Their rhetoric is same as Qnuts and MAGA. blm Jun 2024 #4
Thank you. She had not sounded like this in previous meetings, so I was niyad Jun 2024 #7
She's in some ways Goddessartist Jun 2024 #6
I am sorry that your sister is like that. I can only imagine how frustrating niyad Jun 2024 #8
Your guest might end up like some of DU's disgruntled returnees who allege that anyone who isn't in lockstep... Hekate Jun 2024 #16
It's how DH was early in our marriage Wednesdays Jun 2024 #11
Ask her where she gets her news. If it is Fox we are screwed. But you can make suggestions Maraya1969 Jun 2024 #9
I may ask her at our next meeting, because she had not sounded like niyad Jun 2024 #10
'Self-identified' Democrat are the key words here peggysue2 Jun 2024 #13
Next meeting come prepared with Biden's accomplishments MagickMuffin Jun 2024 #14
Had a similar experience angrychair Jun 2024 #15
She sounds Rebl2 Jun 2024 #17
You said it ignorance. Duncanpup Jun 2024 #18
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