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Ms. Toad

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8. I've also done my daughter's tax return -
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2024, 08:35 PM - Edit history (1)

The amount reported on her W-2 by her employer wasn't even close to the actual tips she received working at Starbucks. (They have now changed to a system that tracks and reports all tips.) People are generally tipping about 15-20% - so that leaves7%-12% tax free for anyone reporting only what their employer reports.

And - employees are supposed to be reconciling their tips, reporting discrepancies to their employer, so that their employer reports an accurate amount on the tax return. But that is an added accounting burden on both employees and employers that I've never seen any employee do in real life.

Eliminating (or reducing) taxes for tipped employees just exascerbates the problem (and gives a tax break to tipped employees that it doesn't give to other workers with similarly low incomes).

Just treat tipped employees the same as every other worker earning a wage is treated - no more sub-minimum wage. That way workers aren't shorted if they are assigned the morning shift and don't earn 8% (and don't reconcile down their income - which would require their employer to pay more), other workers don't get a tax-free bonus (if they don't reconcile up their income), and customers pay an equal amount for equal food - and those of us with consciences aren't stuck "voluntarily" footing the bill for both those who don't tip and employers who don't pay a fair wage.

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And please snowybirdie Jun 2024 #1
Billionaires will never pay their fair share WarGamer Jun 2024 #2
The Culinary union knows Trump is lying. Why would Biden repeat a lie? Nevilledog Jun 2024 #3
Why should one group of workers get tax-free income? Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #4
The amount of the W2 is fairly high from my recollection dsc Jun 2024 #5
Not when many places automatically a 20% tip to the tab. calguy Jun 2024 #6
I think in those cases they have to report the 20% on the W2 dsc Jun 2024 #12
I've also done my daughter's tax return - Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #8
I definitely agree with you on the general concept of tipping being a problem dsc Jun 2024 #13
Interesting. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #14
Strongly agree. orange jar Jun 2024 #7
Really, so you think not paying tips will raise wages...how generous you are to do them this favor...really Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #10
That is not what I said. orange jar Jun 2024 #17
I mean no offense, but my righty cousin at my daughter's wedding said what you posted. Waiters and other workers have Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #9
I said nothing about being paid a pittance; my focus is on fairness. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #11
Were the tips declared accurately or not? MichMan Jun 2024 #18
Sorry - typo. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #20
Working class voters think Dems hate them and this thread depresses me YorkRd Jun 2024 #21
Sure, lets create a whole new avenue for tax evasion..... TheRealNorth Jun 2024 #15
It already exists. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #16
Good luck getting working folks out from paying for the bills of billionaires. not happening ZonkerHarris Jun 2024 #19
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