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Karadeniz

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8. Way back 2000 yrs ago in the middle east, it seems like everyone belonged

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Sun Jun 16, 2024, 08:12 PM

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somewhere, either son of...or of some town. It's hard to imagine anyone totally in a vacuum, isolated from everyone. The ancient Jews could belong to a broader community as well, some identification with a religious sect. Jesus didn't grow up in a vacuum, either, but we can toss out his relating to the Pharisees or sadducees. That leaves the Essenes, with whose lifestyle and beliefs he'd have been very comfortable with. They were very mystical, absolutely dedicated to the soul being our connection to Source and developing it...the belief found in the parables. They were also dedicated to equality and forbade slavery among their members. So, if institutional Christianity hadn't erased Jesus's connections to mystical Judaism, the anti slavery aspect might have prevailed!!!!

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Today's Republicans do in fact have Christian values [View all] Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 OP

HYPOCRISY Skittles Jun 2024 #1

Not all Christian denominations take the Bible as the absolute word of God. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #2

So why bother? You don't need religion to embrace basic human dignity. Sibelius Fan Jun 2024 #3

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2024 #7

"Good Without a God"... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #21

What's the point of all those STUPID supernatural stories? Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #70

So as democrats do we want to insult and run off Christian voters? questionseverything Jun 2024 #4

I'm OK with running off people who are OK with slavery & genocide Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #9

I know lots of christians and non of them support any of that questionseverything Jun 2024 #11

Yes, but... slightlv Jun 2024 #17

Here's some NT love, right from the mouth of the Prince of Peace: Sibelius Fan Jun 2024 #30

Out. of. context. ancianita Jun 2024 #31

I guess their omnipotent God couldn't get it right the first time Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #32

You don't even believe in their God, nevermind just getting God wrong the same way they do. ancianita Jun 2024 #39

"...eat the apple." MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #81

LOL!!! Congratulations. You take the Bible as literally wnylib Jun 2024 #82

That's DemocRAT if you seek the prober hypocritical Khrishtun inflection..... magicarpet Jun 2024 #68

Oh no,... not at all,... nobody is trying to run off genuine Christians who.,.. magicarpet Jun 2024 #72

YES!!! niyad Jun 2024 #5

"God has no religion." Mahatma Gandhi 🙏 anciano Jun 2024 #6

THIS is one idea I can totally get behind! slightlv Jun 2024 #18

Namaste 🙏 anciano Jun 2024 #27

"god is dead." - Friedrich Nietzsche JoseBalow Jun 2024 #25

"God is a figment of human imagination" - Me Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #71

Way back 2000 yrs ago in the middle east, it seems like everyone belonged Karadeniz Jun 2024 #8

I like a lot of what I've read of the Essenes. slightlv Jun 2024 #19

From what ive read, they had female leaders, at least at Carmel. Karadeniz Jun 2024 #23

Yes. They were considered an outlier sect, and that possibly John the Baptist was from them. ancianita Jun 2024 #33

I object, and I have read it. nt LAS14 Jun 2024 #10

are you saying Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #34

difference between "every word inspired and true" rampartc Jun 2024 #12

"meek and poor of spirit who try to live by the golden rule and share a few loaves and fishes" Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #35

absolutely rampartc Jun 2024 #75

In The Name Of. dchill Jun 2024 #13

So does Joe Biden. Just not the ones you list. onenote Jun 2024 #14

and, if asked to elaborate on what those values are.. Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #36

You mean like REVEREND orangecrush Jun 2024 #15

Your theology is off, and so is your interpretation of the Bible. lees1975 Jun 2024 #16

"The context for interpreting the Bible from a Christian perspective is the words of Christ" Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #37

My favorite commentary on the Bible, by my favorite all time skeptic: Goodheart Jun 2024 #20

I've read a bit about Ingersall. And that's what HE says is in the Pentateuch. It's not. ancianita Jun 2024 #28

It's in there. Numbers 31. Having spoken to the Lord, Moses executed the Lord's vengeance upon the Midianites. Goodheart Jun 2024 #43

Okay, I hear ya. ancianita Jun 2024 #49

OK here is our self-proclaimed Christian apologizing for slavery Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #53

Tubman ordered the slaves she freed to murder Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #73

Don't niggle. My parallel was about people being so immersed in their slavery that they feared the unknown ancianita Jun 2024 #74

There is no comparison. One thing actually happened. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #78

Interesting Marcuse Jun 2024 #48

God exists, but not in the sky. Marcuse Jun 2024 #22

That's Old Testament stuff mcar Jun 2024 #24

You might have first Amendment rights, but you're dissing fellow Democrats. ancianita Jun 2024 #26

This general time period is also known as the Dark Ages. n/t spike jones Jun 2024 #40

Nope. Those came two centuries later. After the fall of the Roman Empire. ancianita Jun 2024 #41

yes, 500-1400. Every where I read. spike jones Jun 2024 #45

Cool. So the book isn't about ONLY the early Dark Ages, but two hundred years before it. ancianita Jun 2024 #50

As I posted spike jones Jun 2024 #66

Funny, ancianita Jun 2024 #67

Good enough. Thanks for the exchange. spike jones Jun 2024 #69

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #42

That is not very nice to say. pwb Jun 2024 #47

how in the world did you get that from what I said? Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #56

Calling a poster pitiful? pwb Jun 2024 #57

set me straight - show how the Bible doesn't condone slavery rape genocide Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #60

This is the last time I kick your division post up. pwb Jun 2024 #63

How sophist you are. ancianita Jun 2024 #54

OK, please define genocide in your own terms Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #58

That's what a sophist would say, "my dear." ancianita Jun 2024 #61

and a religious bigot would say "have a blessed day" Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #62

brought to you by Hellinistic astrology Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #46

Say what? Goodheart Jun 2024 #55

Fine. But ancianita Jun 2024 #59

I think we can summarize it this way: Goodheart Jun 2024 #64

Or we can summarize it the political way: ancianita Jun 2024 #65

Religion usually destroys. chouchou Jun 2024 #29

I don't ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #38

and yet their Bible is full of all that stuff Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #44

more Christian values Stardust Mirror Jun 2024 #51

The Ten Commandments were way before Jesus and Christianity. pwb Jun 2024 #52

And don't covet your neighbor's property. Mariana Jun 2024 #77

The thing about "Christian" or any similar labels is that the validity RockRaven Jun 2024 #76

False, disappointing that general faith bashing tolerated on DU uponit7771 Jun 2024 #79

I affirm tolerance of such posts. It gives the rest of us an opportunity to present... LAS14 Jun 2024 #80