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In reply to the discussion: Today's Republicans do in fact have Christian values [View all]Marcuse
(9,156 posts)48. Interesting
[excerptIngersoll passed away on July 21, 1899 at a home in Dobbs Ferry, NY. The New York Times reported it the next day, and a rather lengthy article about his death followed by his accomplishments appeared with the following titles over the article:
Robert G. Ingersoll Dead
The Famous Agnostic Passes Away Suddenly at His Summer Home
Religious Views Unchanged
No Evidence that He Abandoned Agnosticism, Though He Expressed Hope of Immortality
One would think that that the statement Religious Views Unchanged would be sufficient to dissuade people from thinking otherwise. However, stories regarding a conversion on his death-bed began circulating, and, finally having enough of these rumors (mostly spread by highly evangelical clergy), Eva A. Ingersoll, RGIs wife, with two others who were present (Sue M. Farrell, RGIs sister-in-law, and Sue Sharkey, the housekeeper) signed an affidavit on March 17, 1906. This notarized affidavit restated and confirmed everything that was mentioned in the New York Times newspaper article.
In June, 1909, David Eugene Olson, an evangelical preacher from Oregon, published another affidavit, this one signed by an Archie E. Berry, which stated Berrys father, Joehiel, heard Ingersolls confession on his death bed and that Joehiel was Eva Ingersolls brother! A refutation of these falsehoods followed with a second affidavit by Eva, and one by Maud, Ingersolls daughter, who was mentioned in Berrys statement. (Lying About Ingersoll by George MacDonald, Blue-Grass Blade, Lexington, Kentucky, February 27, 1910, page 4.) This notarized statement indicated that not only were no outsiders present, but Eva was not related to Berry. An offer of $1,000 was made to anyone who can prove the statement by Berry as true.
Robert G. Ingersoll Dead
The Famous Agnostic Passes Away Suddenly at His Summer Home
Religious Views Unchanged
No Evidence that He Abandoned Agnosticism, Though He Expressed Hope of Immortality
One would think that that the statement Religious Views Unchanged would be sufficient to dissuade people from thinking otherwise. However, stories regarding a conversion on his death-bed began circulating, and, finally having enough of these rumors (mostly spread by highly evangelical clergy), Eva A. Ingersoll, RGIs wife, with two others who were present (Sue M. Farrell, RGIs sister-in-law, and Sue Sharkey, the housekeeper) signed an affidavit on March 17, 1906. This notarized affidavit restated and confirmed everything that was mentioned in the New York Times newspaper article.
In June, 1909, David Eugene Olson, an evangelical preacher from Oregon, published another affidavit, this one signed by an Archie E. Berry, which stated Berrys father, Joehiel, heard Ingersolls confession on his death bed and that Joehiel was Eva Ingersolls brother! A refutation of these falsehoods followed with a second affidavit by Eva, and one by Maud, Ingersolls daughter, who was mentioned in Berrys statement. (Lying About Ingersoll by George MacDonald, Blue-Grass Blade, Lexington, Kentucky, February 27, 1910, page 4.) This notarized statement indicated that not only were no outsiders present, but Eva was not related to Berry. An offer of $1,000 was made to anyone who can prove the statement by Berry as true.
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Not all Christian denominations take the Bible as the absolute word of God.
Elessar Zappa
Jun 2024
#2
You don't even believe in their God, nevermind just getting God wrong the same way they do.
ancianita
Jun 2024
#39
That's DemocRAT if you seek the prober hypocritical Khrishtun inflection.....
magicarpet
Jun 2024
#68
Oh no,... not at all,... nobody is trying to run off genuine Christians who.,..
magicarpet
Jun 2024
#72
Yes. They were considered an outlier sect, and that possibly John the Baptist was from them.
ancianita
Jun 2024
#33
"meek and poor of spirit who try to live by the golden rule and share a few loaves and fishes"
Stardust Mirror
Jun 2024
#35
"The context for interpreting the Bible from a Christian perspective is the words of Christ"
Stardust Mirror
Jun 2024
#37
I've read a bit about Ingersall. And that's what HE says is in the Pentateuch. It's not.
ancianita
Jun 2024
#28
It's in there. Numbers 31. Having spoken to the Lord, Moses executed the Lord's vengeance upon the Midianites.
Goodheart
Jun 2024
#43
Don't niggle. My parallel was about people being so immersed in their slavery that they feared the unknown
ancianita
Jun 2024
#74
Cool. So the book isn't about ONLY the early Dark Ages, but two hundred years before it.
ancianita
Jun 2024
#50
set me straight - show how the Bible doesn't condone slavery rape genocide
Stardust Mirror
Jun 2024
#60