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3. Exactly, we need to reduce hours to create more jobs.

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:36 AM

Nov 2012

And all of them should pay a livable wage of course.

We also need to rid ourselves of this notion that some jobs are more worthy than others. I had to laugh today when I heard a local radio talk show host making fun of clerks that were striking on the docks because he thought they were greatly overpaid when all they did was paperwork and computer stuff that anyone could do.

Ha, anyone can do paperwork and computer "stuff" but it takes a genius to spew bs on a right wing radio show for a few hours a day.

This is the same mentality that thinks field workers making minimum wage are lazy while CEOs put in lots of sweat to earn those billions. Seriously, does it look like Mittwit ever sweated a day in his life (except maybe the last few minutes of November 6, 2012)?

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If a person is working 40 hours a week, they should be paid enough to live off of. [View all] Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 OP

Wrong quakerboy Nov 2012 #1

Exactly, we need to reduce hours to create more jobs. Live and Learn Nov 2012 #3

Well, he did sweat A LOT during that last debate Justkd1 Nov 2012 #32

We need to reduce hours just because! randome Dec 2012 #52

Actually I agree with this, but its dependent on industry... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #6

Don't you think "we got machines" is just a myth Johonny Nov 2012 #30

I don't quakerboy Dec 2012 #47

+1000 Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #12

that was my ideal as well shanti Nov 2012 #25

i agree, and lower the retirement age as well Enrique Nov 2012 #14

I dunno quakerboy Dec 2012 #48

So volunteer. Chellee Dec 2012 #60

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #19

Let's start a little smaller JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #28

Thats a whole separate issue quakerboy Dec 2012 #49

Nice! CrispyQ Dec 2012 #53

So everyone shop at Costco MrYikes Nov 2012 #2

I heard the other day that it was $17 per hour plus benefits and get this: Live and Learn Nov 2012 #4

This was on another site the other day AlexSatan Nov 2012 #18

It is still a hell of a lot less than the ridiculous sums many CEOs Live and Learn Nov 2012 #24

While I agree that it is much less than most CEOs AlexSatan Nov 2012 #29

Until you post your "correct values and real facts", Live and Learn Dec 2012 #57

If you can't read or click on links, I can't help you. AlexSatan Dec 2012 #59

Unions are one of the most effective counterbalances to corporate power... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #5

Unfortunately not everyone can PD Turk Nov 2012 #15

Employee owned BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #7

And even then, you have to be careful nowdays quakerboy Dec 2012 #54

How would you calculate "living wage"? lightcameron Nov 2012 #8

It sounds like you are challenging the very concept, imagining it as "overwhelming" whathehell Nov 2012 #9

No, just asking how it would be defined. It would have to be, wouldn't it? lightcameron Nov 2012 #38

I don't get this by zip code or smaller shit, I live in the same economy as someone across town TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #11

No, the idea is to pay as little as possible whathehell Nov 2012 #20

Hyperbole is sometimes effective. lightcameron Nov 2012 #42

As, I suppose, are challenges disguised as questions. whathehell Dec 2012 #50

I don't have any employees. lightcameron Dec 2012 #55

If you don't have any employees, why are you obsessed with the concept of a living wage? whathehell Dec 2012 #58

I live in a town where the cost of living is much higher than it is fifteen miles away. lightcameron Nov 2012 #39

Arithmetic nt PD Turk Nov 2012 #16

Okay, explain it? lightcameron Nov 2012 #40

Cost of living divided by hours worked PD Turk Nov 2012 #44

Thank you for answering the question. lightcameron Dec 2012 #56

You're approaching it backward, it's not about making the wage as low as possible. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #22

No, I'm wondering how *high* it would have to be. lightcameron Nov 2012 #41

It would have to be calculated more precisely, but roughly how much does it take Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #45

$22/hr is not a living wage in NYC stevenleser Dec 2012 #67

Read the subject line, rough estimate. But, $30 is about $800 a week take home and Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #69

You do realize the Census already has a existing Cost of Living index... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #66

We will always have poverty OnionPatch Nov 2012 #10

In some case and some places you can Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #13

good idea. not likely in reality.. underoath Nov 2012 #17

Of course it's possible. Of course it's realistic. woo me with science Nov 2012 #21

It was a reality during the post war years of The New Deal when labor unions were strong, whathehell Nov 2012 #23

I think it was at least 5 yrs ago that I read a study saying there is no county in the US librechik Nov 2012 #26

Why not 20? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #27

I don't know when labor laws disappeared felix_numinous Nov 2012 #31

Not according to my REPUBLICAN father in-law Democratopia Nov 2012 #33

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #34

You're cute :) arcane1 Nov 2012 #35

Well I really hope you didn't learn to write like that in our government schools. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #37

kr. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #36

I agree and arely staircase Nov 2012 #43

Except most of them will just want to cut off the benefits that helps those workers TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #62

Unions cant be effective with high unemployment. We need jobs in America. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #46

K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #51

Kick&Recommend.. butterfly77 Dec 2012 #61

A union is the Bastard Child B Calm Dec 2012 #63

Damn straight they should! lonestarnot Dec 2012 #64

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #65

k&r n/t RainDog Dec 2012 #68

hi andrewmac0 Dec 2012 #70

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #71