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In reply to the discussion: the lies of David W, Corn [View all]hfojvt
(37,573 posts)They fought for their side - the haves and the have mores. That's what they do.
It is NOT their fault that Obama chose not to fight for our side. That he surrendered without a fight. That was his choice. He, himself, stood up and gave a speech where he said, essentially "some people want me to fight, but I am not going to ..." and then gave what I consider to be a list of lame excuses.
They also did not make him lie about his "deal".
Obama was the one who claimed that the accursed payroll tax cut was some sort of progressive victory, an economic stimulus. I still say it is a Reagenesque economic stimulus. Obama was the one who claimed that his deal only gave $114 billion in tax cuts to the rich, when even the amount to the top 1% was much bigger than that. Republicans are not to blame for that. Obama should not get a pass for that, just because Republicans are so awful. They are not responsible for his lies - he is.
Unless you would care to explain two things. First, how his number is accurate and second how my number (from CTJ) is bogus. Until that happens, my opinion is that a) Obama is spouting misinformation and b) Corn is buying it and passing it on.
We were outraged when Bush pulled crap like that, or we pretended to be. Why should we tolerate it from Obama just because he is supposed to be on our team?