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141. What are you about? That was one of Latimer's arguments against Bowman that

Wed Jun 26, 2024, 08:22 PM

Jun 2024

he voted against President Biden’s infrastructure bill.

As an aside, yesterday Manchin made it pretty clear he would not vote for the insurrectionist, and would be voting for Biden.

I wonder if the same can be said for Bowman’s supporters?

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No matter what one feels about Jamaal Bowman, and I might have voted against him had I lived in his CD [View all] dsc Jun 2024 OP

Exactly. Thanks for this OP. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #1

Ditto. B.See Jun 2024 #122

It was money well spent. Any candidate who denies Hamas rape attacks, engages in 9/11 truther nonsense, votes against tritsofme Jun 2024 #2

a couple of Bowman comments, and good links... thesquanderer Jun 2024 #13

GREAT post tritsofme.... democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #71

I don't know enough about that race to know for sure for whom I would have voted dsc Jun 2024 #132

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #3

I agree that this was a waste of money and I blame the Supreme Court. yardwork Jun 2024 #4

Well said. n/t Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #5

K&R Doc Sportello Jun 2024 #6

He voted with MAGA Republicans against Biden's policy. He basically lost 60/40. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #7

AOC won resoundingly, proving that progressive candidates can win. yardwork Jun 2024 #9

Yes she did. I understand she has very very good constituent outreach. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #10

That's what it takes. yardwork Jun 2024 #19

AOC is in good standing in a deep blue district. Bowman's district is divided... brush Jun 2024 #81

His job was to represent all of his constituents roscoeroscoe Jun 2024 #124

Didn't AOC grow up in Westchester? N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #130

Nobody's disputing that. Her district is blue, in NYC. brush Jun 2024 #146

Nobody is disputing that NY-16 is blue either. It's a Biden +51.5 district. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #149

Riht, that's what I said. brush Jun 2024 #163

Then why did you assert that NY-17 is "divided"? lapucelle Jun 2024 #165

Between the Bronx and Queens. Let's drop it. This is going nowhere. brush Jun 2024 #166

That's fine with me. Democrats will hold NY-14, 15, and 16. It's NY-17 that we need to flip. lapucelle Jun 2024 #167

So? Her district is in the Bronx, NYC. And it's solidly blue. brush Jun 2024 #148

NY-16 is solidly blue as well. It's a Biden +51% district. lapucelle Jun 2024 #150

AOC grew up in "wealthier Westchester County." betsuni Jun 2024 #131

Her district is in the Bronx though. And it's solidly blue. brush Jun 2024 #147

NY-16 is solidly blue as well. lapucelle Jun 2024 #151

Yes. brush Jun 2024 #158

It's Ritchie Torres's district NY-15 that is entirely in the Bronx. lapucelle Jun 2024 #152

Yes, Rep. Torres distrinct is in NYC, as is AOC's. What's your point? brush Jun 2024 #157

My point is that it is inaccurate to say that AOC's district is in the Bronx. lapucelle Jun 2024 #160

Before you did research you said that AOC grew up in Westchester and I answered "So", her district is in NYC... brush Jun 2024 #162

because she's a good candidate who has learned work from the inside wyldwolf Jun 2024 #145

Clearly all of those votes were planned and cleared by the whip. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #15

Well apparently his actual constituents had enough of his pointless stunts. tritsofme Jun 2024 #18

I think his problem is that they were NOT constituency based, and his constituency didn't like it. Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #20

That's not the point, though. yardwork Jun 2024 #28

Do you have any evidence for that claim? Clearly, Clyburn had to whip GOP crossover votes lapucelle Jun 2024 #153

Latimer would have voted against the infrastructure bill just like Bowman did dsc Jun 2024 #133

County Executive Latimer supported the bill. lapucelle Jun 2024 #159

He said he supports the bill but he also said he won't support tax increases dsc Jun 2024 #161

The infrastructure bill did not include tax increases. That was a Republican talking point. lapucelle Jun 2024 #168

He would have lost without AIPAC spending. Ace Rothstein Jun 2024 #8

No. He lost all by himself, without any help from others. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #25

I think that's what Ace was saying that he would have lost even without AIPAC's contributions NT AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #29

Yes. I see now. That may well be true. But why take chances? Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #41

Certainly have seen it on the Republican side NT AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #103

Indeed. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #116

I agree. That is without even mentioning the fire alarm pulling karynnj Jun 2024 #69

Very astute observations. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #85

AIPAC Old Okie Jun 2024 #33

AIPAC is not a foreign entity, they are Americans. tritsofme Jun 2024 #37

They are a lobbying organization with one issue - supporting Israel. So you would be ok when Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #46

That is a different argument, I responded to the false comparison of AIPAC to Putin's interference. tritsofme Jun 2024 #50

Right. Different. Got it. Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #51

AIPAC is made up US Citizens and IS NOT a foreign government. Surely you know this and understand emulatorloo Jun 2024 #40

I won't say it's straight out of the Protocols AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #44

You felt that too. 🤔 sheshe2 Jun 2024 #78

Just stop choie Jun 2024 #80

I wish the folks deploying these anti-Semitic tropes would! tritsofme Jun 2024 #82

There's enough real antisemitic tropes choie Jun 2024 #83

I agree completely, which is why I would never do such a thing. But that is great advice in general! tritsofme Jun 2024 #86

Jews controlling the government IS a real antisemitic trope AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #89

Of course...out of the billions of PAC $$$$ annually... CincyDem Jun 2024 #84

I have a problem with any group doing this dsc Jun 2024 #134

False. His opponent was as well known as he was. HE blew it with his attitude. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #63

That's what the post you're responding to said. yardwork Jun 2024 #68

I read it as the challenger wouldve lost without the funding. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #101

Bowman voted 94% on Biden's agenda. The votes where he differed are some that were expected and Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #11

He lost essentially by 60/40. No amount of money causes an effective incumbent rep to lose by that much. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #30

Oh please. Smear fellow DUers. By saying I was disappointed in the fact that lobbying money is Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #43

You wrote it, Nanejeanne. You clearly stated DU'ers are cheering an "assault on democracy" emulatorloo Jun 2024 #48

I own it. I do feel sad that DUers are Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #54

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #98

Sounds like a smear to me. yardwork Jun 2024 #53

See previous response. This has zero to do Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #56

"You don't care..." yardwork Jun 2024 #67

It isn't who spent the money it is the fact the money was spent dsc Jun 2024 #135

And I, and many others in this thread, have stated agreement with you yardwork Jun 2024 #139

They are saying it wasn't the money that defeated Bowman. Nixie Jun 2024 #100

Yes. Constituents were unhappy with the status quo. Happens in politics. No need for elaborate money conspiracies. betsuni Jun 2024 #109

In May, Nihad Awad hosted a high dollar fundraiser for Bowman at a private home in VA. lapucelle Jun 2024 #57

Yes I've seen your posts in the other threads. Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #62

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #72

Wait...you were being rude to...yourself? tritsofme Jun 2024 #74

Oops. Mismatched socks? yardwork Jun 2024 #77

That was sure strange! tritsofme Jun 2024 #79

Really really strange. Would love an explanation. Maybe site owners could untangle what just happened. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #104

Or maybe the other one could jump back in this thread and let us know? tritsofme Jun 2024 #106

!!!! emulatorloo Jun 2024 #107

Outside money doesn't necessarily affect anything DeeDeeNY Jun 2024 #12

Do you think AIPAC is going to throw it's support to Latimer Glaisne Jun 2024 #14

I doubt they have much reason, this is a D+20 district, the Democratic primary is the final word. tritsofme Jun 2024 #16

No need. It's a SOLID-Democratic district. This election is over. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #26

Nope. They're recons. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #73

Kind of hard to reconcile with President Biden and Leader Jeffries being amongst AIPAC's largest recipients. tritsofme Jun 2024 #76

Since the money was spent by a special interest group Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #17

Bowman's side spent money too dsc Jun 2024 #136

Bowman was outspent 8:1. AloeVera Jun 2024 #164

Too bad BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #169

Great piece! Spot on. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #21

This guy has the new Joe Manchin written all over him. Mr. Sparkle Jun 2024 #22

Latimer is no Manchin. If anything it is Bowman's voting against the JohnSJ Jun 2024 #52

Latimer would have voted against it too dsc Jun 2024 #137

What are you about? That was one of Latimer's arguments against Bowman that JohnSJ Jun 2024 #141

He also said he wouldn't support any tax increases dsc Jun 2024 #142

Well put. Music Man Jun 2024 #23

A shit sandwich...now the district gets a Joe Manchin. pecosbob Jun 2024 #24

Someone who will support the Biden agenda is not a "shit sandwich". Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #32

That is ridiculous. Latimer is not Joe Manchin. And I sure as hell wish we still had Joe...the Senate is looking tough Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #39

Bowman was a school principal Zorro Jun 2024 #27

A Republican talking point is that it interfered with the vote. AloeVera Jun 2024 #87

Bowman ddn't pull the fire alarm? The vote wasn't delayed because the Capitol was evacuated? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #91

I didn't know he'd been a school principal. yardwork Jun 2024 #94

I could make a pretty strong argument that we already have TBF Jun 2024 #31

I was very disappointed over the hugh money that went into taking Bowman down. patphil Jun 2024 #34

The money was because of Bowman's unpopular views. There is a large percentage of Jewish Americans in that district. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #38

What you say is true, but I understand over $20 million was spent for Latimer to win. patphil Jun 2024 #45

That is not Latimer's fault...Bowman was unpopular...in an area which has a substantial number of Jewish voters, he Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #58

DURec leftstreet Jun 2024 #35

Primaries are two way streets...Progressives have primaryed sitting Democrats which annoys me but is their right. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #36

I find it odd that people decry Latimer primarying Bowman because "you don't primary Democrats" AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #42

I have no problems with the existence of primaries dsc Jun 2024 #138

Rec nt berniesandersmittens Jun 2024 #47

Some outlets Jilly_in_VA Jun 2024 #49

AOC won her primary, so that seems unlikely. yardwork Jun 2024 #55

There is no shift in the way people in the country feel about Israel. lapucelle Jun 2024 #64

Another lesson learned. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #93

he blew this on his own. Money doesnt win elections oldsoftie Jun 2024 #59

Would've had a President Romney. betsuni Jun 2024 #119

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2024 #60

There are all manner of conclusions one can draw from Bowman's loss and the money invested to defeat him, but.... jaxexpat Jun 2024 #61

Latimer was leading Bowman by 17% before AIPAC weighed in. lapucelle Jun 2024 #66

The conclusion I draw from such info is that AIPAC has money enough to budget some on needless(?) insurance. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #92

Why would you assume that? lapucelle Jun 2024 #97

Heh. betsuni Jun 2024 #110

There's a difference between an assumption and a deduction. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #111

Yes, I know that there is a difference between an assumption and a deduction. lapucelle Jun 2024 #113

No. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #115

Perhaps it will come to you if you think. again. lapucelle Jun 2024 #120

So, will AIPAC be supporting Biden or Trump in the general election? jalan48 Jun 2024 #65

Fair enough question, anyone have the answer? Emile Jun 2024 #99

A bit uncomfortable for some. jalan48 Jun 2024 #105

I have the answer. AIPAC doesn't support / endorse / raise money for presidential candidates. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #127

AIPAC doesn't support / endorse / raise money for presidential candidates. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #121

Right jalan48 Jun 2024 #125

It is right. We're Democrats. Facts are our friends. lapucelle Jun 2024 #126

A day without a conspiracy theory accusing Democrats of evil right-wing motivations is like a day without sunshine. betsuni Jun 2024 #128

I was hoping for the "it was rigged" WA-03 Democrat Jun 2024 #70

I was waiting for it, but he probably remembered Katie Porter's rigged comment. betsuni Jun 2024 #112

Bowman lost this race (by a LOT) because he had become deeply unpopular stopdiggin Jun 2024 #75

Very safe Democratic seat, indeed. DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #95

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #88

Now we're just calling it "Jewish money"? The veils have really come off lately. tritsofme Jun 2024 #90

That ship sailed long ago JoseBalow Jun 2024 #96

These just sound like the familiar Bernie talking points. Nixie Jun 2024 #102

The magic word "grassroots" purifies money,. THEY are corrupted by (repeat long list of evil enemies & villains). betsuni Jun 2024 #117

We are undertaxed as a nation dsc Jun 2024 #140

Except... mcar Jun 2024 #108

The lack of gracious winning in a Democratic primary has been pretty gross Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #114

Bowman and the squad were elected through the use of dark money sources LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #118

I'd like that explained. Dark money completely ignored. Grassroots dark money? Okay then, that's different! betsuni Jun 2024 #123

I'm sure there's a (((reason))) AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #129

It is badly false to equate what the DSA did to this race dsc Jun 2024 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #143

Great White Hope? What, pray tell do you mean by that? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #154

What do you mean by great white hope? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #155

You're still trying to make this about race? Ace Rothstein Jun 2024 #156