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AloeVera

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164. Bowman was outspent 8:1.

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Thu Jun 27, 2024, 12:02 PM

Jun 2024

Not a fair fight.

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No matter what one feels about Jamaal Bowman, and I might have voted against him had I lived in his CD [View all] dsc Jun 2024 OP

Exactly. Thanks for this OP. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #1

Ditto. B.See Jun 2024 #122

It was money well spent. Any candidate who denies Hamas rape attacks, engages in 9/11 truther nonsense, votes against tritsofme Jun 2024 #2

a couple of Bowman comments, and good links... thesquanderer Jun 2024 #13

GREAT post tritsofme.... democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #71

I don't know enough about that race to know for sure for whom I would have voted dsc Jun 2024 #132

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #3

I agree that this was a waste of money and I blame the Supreme Court. yardwork Jun 2024 #4

Well said. n/t Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #5

K&R Doc Sportello Jun 2024 #6

He voted with MAGA Republicans against Biden's policy. He basically lost 60/40. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #7

AOC won resoundingly, proving that progressive candidates can win. yardwork Jun 2024 #9

Yes she did. I understand she has very very good constituent outreach. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #10

That's what it takes. yardwork Jun 2024 #19

AOC is in good standing in a deep blue district. Bowman's district is divided... brush Jun 2024 #81

His job was to represent all of his constituents roscoeroscoe Jun 2024 #124

Didn't AOC grow up in Westchester? N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #130

Nobody's disputing that. Her district is blue, in NYC. brush Jun 2024 #146

Nobody is disputing that NY-16 is blue either. It's a Biden +51.5 district. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #149

Riht, that's what I said. brush Jun 2024 #163

Then why did you assert that NY-17 is "divided"? lapucelle Jun 2024 #165

Between the Bronx and Queens. Let's drop it. This is going nowhere. brush Jun 2024 #166

That's fine with me. Democrats will hold NY-14, 15, and 16. It's NY-17 that we need to flip. lapucelle Jun 2024 #167

So? Her district is in the Bronx, NYC. And it's solidly blue. brush Jun 2024 #148

NY-16 is solidly blue as well. It's a Biden +51% district. lapucelle Jun 2024 #150

AOC grew up in "wealthier Westchester County." betsuni Jun 2024 #131

Her district is in the Bronx though. And it's solidly blue. brush Jun 2024 #147

NY-16 is solidly blue as well. lapucelle Jun 2024 #151

Yes. brush Jun 2024 #158

It's Ritchie Torres's district NY-15 that is entirely in the Bronx. lapucelle Jun 2024 #152

Yes, Rep. Torres distrinct is in NYC, as is AOC's. What's your point? brush Jun 2024 #157

My point is that it is inaccurate to say that AOC's district is in the Bronx. lapucelle Jun 2024 #160

Before you did research you said that AOC grew up in Westchester and I answered "So", her district is in NYC... brush Jun 2024 #162

because she's a good candidate who has learned work from the inside wyldwolf Jun 2024 #145

Clearly all of those votes were planned and cleared by the whip. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #15

Well apparently his actual constituents had enough of his pointless stunts. tritsofme Jun 2024 #18

I think his problem is that they were NOT constituency based, and his constituency didn't like it. Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #20

That's not the point, though. yardwork Jun 2024 #28

Do you have any evidence for that claim? Clearly, Clyburn had to whip GOP crossover votes lapucelle Jun 2024 #153

Latimer would have voted against the infrastructure bill just like Bowman did dsc Jun 2024 #133

County Executive Latimer supported the bill. lapucelle Jun 2024 #159

He said he supports the bill but he also said he won't support tax increases dsc Jun 2024 #161

The infrastructure bill did not include tax increases. That was a Republican talking point. lapucelle Jun 2024 #168

He would have lost without AIPAC spending. Ace Rothstein Jun 2024 #8

No. He lost all by himself, without any help from others. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #25

I think that's what Ace was saying that he would have lost even without AIPAC's contributions NT AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #29

Yes. I see now. That may well be true. But why take chances? Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #41

Certainly have seen it on the Republican side NT AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #103

Indeed. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #116

I agree. That is without even mentioning the fire alarm pulling karynnj Jun 2024 #69

Very astute observations. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #85

AIPAC Old Okie Jun 2024 #33

AIPAC is not a foreign entity, they are Americans. tritsofme Jun 2024 #37

They are a lobbying organization with one issue - supporting Israel. So you would be ok when Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #46

That is a different argument, I responded to the false comparison of AIPAC to Putin's interference. tritsofme Jun 2024 #50

Right. Different. Got it. Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #51

AIPAC is made up US Citizens and IS NOT a foreign government. Surely you know this and understand emulatorloo Jun 2024 #40

I won't say it's straight out of the Protocols AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #44

You felt that too. 🤔 sheshe2 Jun 2024 #78

Just stop choie Jun 2024 #80

I wish the folks deploying these anti-Semitic tropes would! tritsofme Jun 2024 #82

There's enough real antisemitic tropes choie Jun 2024 #83

I agree completely, which is why I would never do such a thing. But that is great advice in general! tritsofme Jun 2024 #86

Jews controlling the government IS a real antisemitic trope AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #89

Of course...out of the billions of PAC $$$$ annually... CincyDem Jun 2024 #84

I have a problem with any group doing this dsc Jun 2024 #134

False. His opponent was as well known as he was. HE blew it with his attitude. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #63

That's what the post you're responding to said. yardwork Jun 2024 #68

I read it as the challenger wouldve lost without the funding. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #101

Bowman voted 94% on Biden's agenda. The votes where he differed are some that were expected and Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #11

He lost essentially by 60/40. No amount of money causes an effective incumbent rep to lose by that much. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #30

Oh please. Smear fellow DUers. By saying I was disappointed in the fact that lobbying money is Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #43

You wrote it, Nanejeanne. You clearly stated DU'ers are cheering an "assault on democracy" emulatorloo Jun 2024 #48

I own it. I do feel sad that DUers are Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #54

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #98

Sounds like a smear to me. yardwork Jun 2024 #53

See previous response. This has zero to do Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #56

"You don't care..." yardwork Jun 2024 #67

It isn't who spent the money it is the fact the money was spent dsc Jun 2024 #135

And I, and many others in this thread, have stated agreement with you yardwork Jun 2024 #139

They are saying it wasn't the money that defeated Bowman. Nixie Jun 2024 #100

Yes. Constituents were unhappy with the status quo. Happens in politics. No need for elaborate money conspiracies. betsuni Jun 2024 #109

In May, Nihad Awad hosted a high dollar fundraiser for Bowman at a private home in VA. lapucelle Jun 2024 #57

Yes I've seen your posts in the other threads. Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #62

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #72

Wait...you were being rude to...yourself? tritsofme Jun 2024 #74

Oops. Mismatched socks? yardwork Jun 2024 #77

That was sure strange! tritsofme Jun 2024 #79

Really really strange. Would love an explanation. Maybe site owners could untangle what just happened. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #104

Or maybe the other one could jump back in this thread and let us know? tritsofme Jun 2024 #106

!!!! emulatorloo Jun 2024 #107

Outside money doesn't necessarily affect anything DeeDeeNY Jun 2024 #12

Do you think AIPAC is going to throw it's support to Latimer Glaisne Jun 2024 #14

I doubt they have much reason, this is a D+20 district, the Democratic primary is the final word. tritsofme Jun 2024 #16

No need. It's a SOLID-Democratic district. This election is over. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #26

Nope. They're recons. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #73

Kind of hard to reconcile with President Biden and Leader Jeffries being amongst AIPAC's largest recipients. tritsofme Jun 2024 #76

Since the money was spent by a special interest group Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #17

Bowman's side spent money too dsc Jun 2024 #136

Bowman was outspent 8:1. AloeVera Jun 2024 #164

Too bad BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #169

Great piece! Spot on. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #21

This guy has the new Joe Manchin written all over him. Mr. Sparkle Jun 2024 #22

Latimer is no Manchin. If anything it is Bowman's voting against the JohnSJ Jun 2024 #52

Latimer would have voted against it too dsc Jun 2024 #137

What are you about? That was one of Latimer's arguments against Bowman that JohnSJ Jun 2024 #141

He also said he wouldn't support any tax increases dsc Jun 2024 #142

Well put. Music Man Jun 2024 #23

A shit sandwich...now the district gets a Joe Manchin. pecosbob Jun 2024 #24

Someone who will support the Biden agenda is not a "shit sandwich". Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #32

That is ridiculous. Latimer is not Joe Manchin. And I sure as hell wish we still had Joe...the Senate is looking tough Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #39

Bowman was a school principal Zorro Jun 2024 #27

A Republican talking point is that it interfered with the vote. AloeVera Jun 2024 #87

Bowman ddn't pull the fire alarm? The vote wasn't delayed because the Capitol was evacuated? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #91

I didn't know he'd been a school principal. yardwork Jun 2024 #94

I could make a pretty strong argument that we already have TBF Jun 2024 #31

I was very disappointed over the hugh money that went into taking Bowman down. patphil Jun 2024 #34

The money was because of Bowman's unpopular views. There is a large percentage of Jewish Americans in that district. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #38

What you say is true, but I understand over $20 million was spent for Latimer to win. patphil Jun 2024 #45

That is not Latimer's fault...Bowman was unpopular...in an area which has a substantial number of Jewish voters, he Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #58

DURec leftstreet Jun 2024 #35

Primaries are two way streets...Progressives have primaryed sitting Democrats which annoys me but is their right. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #36

I find it odd that people decry Latimer primarying Bowman because "you don't primary Democrats" AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #42

I have no problems with the existence of primaries dsc Jun 2024 #138

Rec nt berniesandersmittens Jun 2024 #47

Some outlets Jilly_in_VA Jun 2024 #49

AOC won her primary, so that seems unlikely. yardwork Jun 2024 #55

There is no shift in the way people in the country feel about Israel. lapucelle Jun 2024 #64

Another lesson learned. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #93

he blew this on his own. Money doesnt win elections oldsoftie Jun 2024 #59

Would've had a President Romney. betsuni Jun 2024 #119

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2024 #60

There are all manner of conclusions one can draw from Bowman's loss and the money invested to defeat him, but.... jaxexpat Jun 2024 #61

Latimer was leading Bowman by 17% before AIPAC weighed in. lapucelle Jun 2024 #66

The conclusion I draw from such info is that AIPAC has money enough to budget some on needless(?) insurance. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #92

Why would you assume that? lapucelle Jun 2024 #97

Heh. betsuni Jun 2024 #110

There's a difference between an assumption and a deduction. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #111

Yes, I know that there is a difference between an assumption and a deduction. lapucelle Jun 2024 #113

No. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #115

Perhaps it will come to you if you think. again. lapucelle Jun 2024 #120

So, will AIPAC be supporting Biden or Trump in the general election? jalan48 Jun 2024 #65

Fair enough question, anyone have the answer? Emile Jun 2024 #99

A bit uncomfortable for some. jalan48 Jun 2024 #105

I have the answer. AIPAC doesn't support / endorse / raise money for presidential candidates. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #127

AIPAC doesn't support / endorse / raise money for presidential candidates. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #121

Right jalan48 Jun 2024 #125

It is right. We're Democrats. Facts are our friends. lapucelle Jun 2024 #126

A day without a conspiracy theory accusing Democrats of evil right-wing motivations is like a day without sunshine. betsuni Jun 2024 #128

I was hoping for the "it was rigged" WA-03 Democrat Jun 2024 #70

I was waiting for it, but he probably remembered Katie Porter's rigged comment. betsuni Jun 2024 #112

Bowman lost this race (by a LOT) because he had become deeply unpopular stopdiggin Jun 2024 #75

Very safe Democratic seat, indeed. DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #95

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #88

Now we're just calling it "Jewish money"? The veils have really come off lately. tritsofme Jun 2024 #90

That ship sailed long ago JoseBalow Jun 2024 #96

These just sound like the familiar Bernie talking points. Nixie Jun 2024 #102

The magic word "grassroots" purifies money,. THEY are corrupted by (repeat long list of evil enemies & villains). betsuni Jun 2024 #117

We are undertaxed as a nation dsc Jun 2024 #140

Except... mcar Jun 2024 #108

The lack of gracious winning in a Democratic primary has been pretty gross Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #114

Bowman and the squad were elected through the use of dark money sources LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #118

I'd like that explained. Dark money completely ignored. Grassroots dark money? Okay then, that's different! betsuni Jun 2024 #123

I'm sure there's a (((reason))) AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #129

It is badly false to equate what the DSA did to this race dsc Jun 2024 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #143

Great White Hope? What, pray tell do you mean by that? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #154

What do you mean by great white hope? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #155

You're still trying to make this about race? Ace Rothstein Jun 2024 #156