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czarjak

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35. The Donald will not win the popular vote.

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2024, 07:23 PM

Jun 2024

Period. Not saying that he won't be president again. We need to change that part.

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NYT admits partisan non-response is source for Trump's lead in poll [View all] Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 OP

If they know it they should attempt to quantify it & statistically adjust for it. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #1

They did. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #9

An unscientific methodology at best Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #28

I don't think you understood what you read. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #34

They didn't simply reduce the over responses Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #36

You are still completely ignoring the concern the potential error the NYT identified: Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #38

It is not standard or statistically valid Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #41

Transparency would be helpful - Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #42

It does indeed impact reliability. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #43

And the lack of transparency does that? Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #44

Lack of transparency means the reliability of the methodology cannot be independently verified Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #46

I never claimed otherwise. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #47

Weighting results CAN be scientific, when done properly. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #51

AFAIK, there is no standardized methodology for reweighting Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #52

There's an entire field of mathematics dedicated to exactly things like this. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #54

Any links to info on reweighting methodology? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #55

Ok, so I'm an idiot. Not the first time, won't be the last. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #45

But in the most accurate way? "we weight the results by party registration" is not the best way. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #50

Who knows. Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #53

I'm telling you, polls are just worthless these days. ananda Jun 2024 #2

I agree Andy823 Jun 2024 #3

The poll he bought was for "best New York businessman" or some nonsense AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #29

And they (NYT) has lost all creditability now. But, I think they were already well on their way of losing it long SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #4

They have been losing creditability DENVERPOPS Jun 2024 #7

At least they have good recipes. markodochartaigh Jun 2024 #14

Polls have been oversampling Republicans for several elections. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #5

Yes, Democrats actually lead fulfilling lives outside of politics maxrandb Jun 2024 #6

True. Fascists and Fundamentalists have always had that advantage: they tend to be more committed peppertree Jun 2024 #8

Given How Much The M$M Is Expected to Get In Political Ads modrepub Jun 2024 #10

I never respond to polls - don't know who's behind them Xipe Totec Jun 2024 #11

Yep. Interrupt their script & INSIST on knowing who commissioned/paid for the poll Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #19

I mean the callers likely never know ITAL Jun 2024 #37

I get that, but I still ask and will not listen to anything if they don't have an answer Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #39

I understand ITAL Jun 2024 #40

Me neither. Besides, I'm on the Democratic list anyway. ananda Jun 2024 #24

Not just them but ALL of them BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #12

Yep! calimary Jun 2024 #16

And that's why the only poll that matters is the one on the first Tuesday of November. paleotn Jun 2024 #13

VOTE. That's IT. Just VOTE!!! calimary Jun 2024 #17

exactly paleotn Jun 2024 #20

I have been saying that for a long time, Democrats do not like to answer polls, and that is why I believe trump Escurumbele Jun 2024 #15

I agree.. agingdem Jun 2024 #21

I think markodochartaigh Jun 2024 #18

Sounds reasonable to me. lpbk2713 Jun 2024 #22

I refuse to answer any polls because I got hit with Republican Push Polls trying to change my view on topics. TheBlackAdder Jun 2024 #23

Have they printed their story of how Trump won the debate yet ? twodogsbarking Jun 2024 #25

this has been a known phenomenon for years now........ Takket Jun 2024 #26

FINALLY they confess. Thanks for posting, bookmarking. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #27

The nyt is the rightwing AM radio of print. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #30

I think most blue voters instinctively knew it all was BS DoBW Jun 2024 #31

Adjust for it? Whyever would they do that? dchill Jun 2024 #32

Dupe. dchill Jun 2024 #33

The Donald will not win the popular vote. czarjak Jun 2024 #35

I think the big polling organizations are still traumatized by 2016 Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2024 #48

Or, Dems are tired of their sill push polls UpInArms Jun 2024 #49