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Polybius

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64. Not after the debate

Reply to emulatorloo (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:53 PM

Jun 2024

Not whole panels of liberal commentators. We've never seen anything like this. We can't pretend that this is normal.

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The debate has split my family on Joe [View all] Joinfortmill Jun 2024 OP

Biden had a cold, in a few days he will be better, Trump will still be a Liar! MacKasey Jun 2024 #1

True and by voting Biden, you get the well qualified, exceptional Biden team karynnj Jun 2024 #11

It's not just the cold Polybius Jun 2024 #20

'Gavin' is not running. And is 100% behind Biden. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #27

In public n/t Polybius Jun 2024 #65

A "secret plot" then? emulatorloo Jun 2024 #70

Not a plot Polybius Jun 2024 #78

What exactly are you saying? That you want Joe to drop out? Please. That would give it to the convicted criminal rapist. brush Jun 2024 #46

And staying in won't? Polybius Jun 2024 #66

You're over-reacting. Joe will win, early reaction polls have already shown indy voters are against the lying crimnal... brush Jun 2024 #69

Ok, I'll take a pause for a week Polybius Jun 2024 #77

He was a lot better in less than 24 hours. rzemanfl Jun 2024 #40

Stump speeches in front of an energized crowd with a telepropter hueymahl Jun 2024 #57

It is sad. Remind them we don't have the luxury of an opinion right now. Starving people don't refuse food. NoSheep Jun 2024 #2

The race is between Biden and trump. I assume they will be voting for Biden, right? That being said, JohnSJ Jun 2024 #3

The best thing about this debate is it's only June calguy Jun 2024 #54

Nearly impossible USAFRetired_Liberal Jun 2024 #4

I still think it would be difficult. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #10

Yeah - Nationally unknown candidate, no money no war chest, 3 months before an election. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #29

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #45

1968 was the last delegate-chosen convention for us. We got off to a poor start with the Celerity Jun 2024 #25

The country went with the crook back then True Dough Jun 2024 #30

Correct. It is a way of quashing discussion. Doodley Jun 2024 #34

The party rules have changed. We just can't "throw out" the existing rules. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #80

Yep. People are freaking out. Rinse and repeat the following: kcr Jun 2024 #5

The one story I saw about an undecided panel TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #6

The CNN panel did not break for Trump kcr Jun 2024 #8

Thx TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #18

++++++++++ emulatorloo Jun 2024 #31

If debates won races, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton would have been president karynnj Jun 2024 #12

There was no talk for Bush to step down after his bad debate in 2004 Polybius Jun 2024 #21

Bush is a Republican. Plenty of talk about Obama stepping down in 2012. He's a Democrat. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #33

Not after the debate Polybius Jun 2024 #64

"Obama's Debate Performance A Catastrophe" Huffington Post Oct 4, 2012 emulatorloo Jun 2024 #67

Agree, and thank you! MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #73

Obama's debate performance was lackluster, not a catastrophe. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #81

Not erven remotely the same thing Polybius Jun 2024 #76

Entire panels, huh? Very convincing! /s emulatorloo Jun 2024 #83

There's always one outcast Polybius Jun 2024 #84

Track down the whole show, he had multiple guests. Good substantive discussion and historical analysis. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #85

What does it matter if they end up voting for Biden anyways? Kaleva Jun 2024 #7

I got several texts too Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #9

I don't think this is a death blow. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #13

Townhall Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #14

Yes, absolutely. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #15

I imagine he knows the difference between NyQuil & DayQuil. JanMichael Jun 2024 #37

Not for fun but I take Benadryl all the time during the day Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #63

I don't think that's the case. There's always a flight surgeon on AF 1 LeftInTX Jun 2024 #82

I agree karynnj Jun 2024 #17

The question is what is worse - an aging statesman leading a remarkable team or a nasty fellon, karynnj Jun 2024 #16

As long as they'll all still vote for Biden in the most likely event Biden remains our candidate... Silent3 Jun 2024 #19

I think they are so blind with fear that Trump Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #22

I would like to think it was planned too WA-03 Democrat Jun 2024 #53

I hear you. Tine will tell. It always does. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #59

If they are afraid, they should vote for Joe. Iris Jun 2024 #23

He is not going to withdraw.... FarPoint Jun 2024 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2024 #28

The debate was a one off. Did you see Biden's speech in North Carolina yesterday. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #35

Nuts. That would just hand the win to the convicted criminal rapist. brush Jun 2024 #50

So, if he doesn't drop out Bettie Jun 2024 #32

Everybody needs chill the fuck out Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #36

Unfortunately, there is no reason to believe this won't happen again. Hurts me to say that. One more time, and Silent Type Jun 2024 #60

Ridin' with Biden or rootin' for Putin Baltimike Jun 2024 #38

So if Joe or Trump had a heart attack or a stroke and were hospitalized, they couldn't be replaced? Really? Doodley Jun 2024 #41

Obviously if they were dead, they would be replaced. However having a bad cold isn't being dead, obviously. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #49

Please. Get back to us when that happens. brush Jun 2024 #52

My family (excluding any Republicans) are not divided on this issue. They all think Joe should step aside for the good Doodley Jun 2024 #39

You're family should watch some of Biden's other media appearances then. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #43

They love Joe Biden, but think he can't overcome the negative voter perceptions. By the way, I was a stutterer. Doodley Jun 2024 #55

Okay, just show them how he publicly appears the majority of the time... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #56

I have. This was not the first time he looked his age. Voting for him no matter what, but I think any true undecideds Silent Type Jun 2024 #61

Who specifically do they want to replace Biden? emulatorloo Jun 2024 #47

Bad optics are a reason to withdraw? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #42

Not necessarily. But, it certainly does create a lot of pressure for the next debate. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #88

Push back vigorously on them that Joe stepping aside at this late date... brush Jun 2024 #44

Thankfully, our household remains unified behind the strength of Biden's performance as a President Torchlight Jun 2024 #48

Ask them politely to watch his speech yesterday. EVERYONE can have a bad day...especially when Ferrets are Cool Jun 2024 #51

Mine too. lark Jun 2024 #58

I had to talk several people down yesterday kimbutgar Jun 2024 #62

See if they will watch this clip from "The Last Word" - 'Calm rational analysis of what we saw last night' emulatorloo Jun 2024 #68

Please read EarlG's thread and share the important points with them. RandomNumbers Jun 2024 #71

++++++ emulatorloo Jun 2024 #72

Half your family prefers Trump now? Iggo Jun 2024 #74

No, they want him to withdraw. They want Newsom... like it's that easy. Sigh. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #75

Tell them its too late even if we wanted to Tree Lady Jun 2024 #79

Their choice is between a solid dependable workhorse or a deranged rabid hog. I'm sure they'll make the right choice emulatorloo Jun 2024 #86

It's Biden or Trump. If Biden withdraws, it's Trump. Iggo Jun 2024 #87

I think we win either way nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #89