If you can chill out about the debate, then you can certainly chill out about worried DU reactions to the debate

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48. What "disingenuous appeal for the viewpoint you agree with" are you talking about?

For the past year I've been arguing fiercely that running anyone but Biden is a terrible idea. I have a sister who keeps suggesting that, and I argue back against that every time.

Right after Biden's awful debate performance, I still didn't think running anyone but Biden was a great idea, but I did think it at least became a more salient issue to discuss. That's the only degree of shift I had. The shift was strongest right after the debate. I'm human, and watching that debate hit hard. It did take a couple of days to recover somewhat, but I was never on the "Must step down!" bandwagon even at the worst of it.

I still have full sympathy for people who feel that Biden should step down, however.

As for "promoting retreat from an inveterate liar" that's a very emotional and besides-the-point take on talk of Biden stepping down.

The top concern for everyone should be that Trump loses. Biden winning is, of course, the far likeliest way for Trump to lose, but, boiled down to the barest essentials, Trump losing to any Democrat is much more important than Biden, the man himself, winning.

Whether or not we've fiercely stood up against a liar, in and of itself, as emotionally satisfying as that is, is a far, far lesser concern.

What many of the people who pounce on worriers fail to do is give those worriers, even those whose worry takes the form of suggesting Biden step down, any credit that they're doing so because, rightly or wrongly, they think it's the best way to save the country and the world from another Trump term.