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valleyrogue

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4. It is not necessary.

Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:26 AM

Jun 2024

Why is it so hard for some people to face the fact Biden was sick with a cold? Why are some people more upset with Biden than over the fact Trump lied constantly and was NOT called to task in real time by CNN?

Biden doesn't have to prove anything. Everybody outside of the Beltway Mob have moved on from the debate. Move on, please.

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If Biden can't ace an hour long unscripted press conference, yes he should leave the race [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 OP

Nah, even if people don't want to vote for Biden.... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #1

I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the electorate. Or... LAS14 Jun 2024 #29

No, I don't think so... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #36

That seems like a conflict of logic DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #53

A televised debate is a demonstration of television skills. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #54

Anyone remember the Kennedy / Nixon debate? 123Z Jun 2024 #117

My worry is that "if people don't want to vote for Biden", even if they don't want Trump, they may just stay home. thesquanderer Jun 2024 #91

he's done this repeatedly bigtree Jun 2024 #2

Exactly. Biden has proven himself over and over and over again. valleyrogue Jun 2024 #6

But the human condition tells us that things are bound to get worse.. LAS14 Jun 2024 #30

Biden has give interviews all month bigtree Jun 2024 #37

I didn't say he's "gotten worse." I said... LAS14 Jun 2024 #65

Again, That's your OPINION. Cha Jun 2024 #97

Of course. nt LAS14 Jun 2024 #105

How about we stop the ageism shit against our nominee. There is no evidence of what you say. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #100

It's the textbook definition of 'ageism.' sop Jul 2024 #126

NO .. There's Nothing "definite" about it. That's Cha Jun 2024 #92

He's proven himself to us, but not to many voters who we cannot afford to lose. Doodley Jun 2024 #40

... emulatorloo Jun 2024 #46

why should he put himself through a gauntlet ( a media ambush) that his rival refuses to? bigtree Jun 2024 #48

Really what is you evidence...if you believe polls Biden was up or tied after the debate...you know Biden is nominee and Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #99

Well Said. 123Z Jun 2024 #3

so many new posters with concerns and advice for the party bigtree Jun 2024 #7

What difference does it make if someone is new or not if what they say has merit? Rafi Jun 2024 #19

stick around and find out bigtree Jun 2024 #23

Find out what? Rafi Jun 2024 #24

many new posters aren't aware this board is meant to support Democrats bigtree Jun 2024 #26

I have been around for years as well... berksdem Jul 2024 #124

This statement is ridiculous berksdem Jun 2024 #49

welcome to the discussion bigtree Jun 2024 #69

& according to you berksdem Jul 2024 #122

Lol obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #82

No it isn't. Cha Jun 2024 #95

Bless your sweet heart bt 123Z Jun 2024 #67

Bless your sweet heart , dear. shrike3 Jun 2024 #110

Very well said. berksdem Jul 2024 #123

Yes, bless them for letting us dum-dum's know mcar Jun 2024 #79

I agree. Lots of that stuff going on. shrike3 Jun 2024 #98

That is a fair comment. There is a lot of emotion about this, but ultimately we all want Democrats to defeat Trump. Doodley Jun 2024 #42

No. I don't think it is. Cha Jun 2024 #119

What about the echo chamber of "news" "influencers"? What about the real people in focus groups who said emulatorloo Jun 2024 #47

Your opinion would have more weight if you hadn't only just joined DU DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #55

Stop Accusing and Insulting DU of being an "Echo Chamber". Cha Jun 2024 #93

Gee, thanks. You do know Biden's given many press conferences over the years, right? shrike3 Jun 2024 #96

It is not necessary. valleyrogue Jun 2024 #4

Because most people have had colds themselves Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #10

speaking for myself though I'm sure I'm not the only one The Wandering Harper Jun 2024 #16

He's an 81 YO man who had a cold, when you're that age, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #68

Bad colds Rebl2 Jun 2024 #88

Biden has Rebl2 Jun 2024 #15

Because some of us are living with the effects... LAS14 Jun 2024 #31

I admit it left me nervous about the effect on independents & uncommitted voters EX500rider Jun 2024 #5

Debates have ZERO effect on presidential election results. Forget about it and move on. Deek1935 Jun 2024 #8

The debate does matter if it keeps producing headlines about people in the party calling for Joe to stepdown. Rafi Jun 2024 #22

isn't that just a deliberately cynical media campaign to divide Democrats from our noninee? bigtree Jun 2024 #28

Almost all of THOSE people are not IN the party! They are pundits and publishers DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #61

re: "If debates mattered then Reagan, W.Bush, and Obama all would have lost" thesquanderer Jun 2024 #90

The "optics" are a decent honorable man w a cold vs a Psychotic Liar. And uncommitted voters emulatorloo Jun 2024 #44

My heart goes one way and my head goes another. anamnua Jun 2024 #9

Autocue or not, Biden was STRONG, ENERGETIC, and FORCEFUL. Forget about the debate. They do not matter. Deek1935 Jun 2024 #11

Nope, nope, nope jmbar2 Jun 2024 #20

Yes, aging only goes in one direction, and that feeds the concern. thesquanderer Jun 2024 #94

+1. Love the man, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. This was not a one off, sadly. I'm old too, Silent Type Jun 2024 #12

Well, how about if this were to take place yorkster Jun 2024 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #14

Don't be so adverse to real discussion Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #33

Your suggest is to put Biden through a gauntlet of unfriendly media to prove what ...nothing. I think this entire OP Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #101

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #17

My concern with this... Mike Nelson Jun 2024 #21

I think you nailed the problem with the "one bad night" line Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #25

Magnifies suspicions that the obvious has been concealed. Frasier Balzov Jun 2024 #83

Yes, this is exactly what I have been wanting to say about the "one bad night" argument. honest.abe Jun 2024 #120

Did you mention if the lying, convicted criminal and rapist should leave the race also? brush Jun 2024 #27

Correct. He should. And Hitler shouldn't have invaded Poland... Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #32

Yes. Did you mention that in your OP? If not, pls add it. brush Jun 2024 #34

I validated your point in my reply above Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #38

Translate pls. In the post calling for Biden to step aside, did you add the same for trump? brush Jun 2024 #39

AND Every member of the pundit and publishing class who are demanding Biden's withdrawl, DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #63

I'm a DU poster, not a member of the pundit class Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #66

I make no bones about it. anamnua Jun 2024 #35

This is not unlike some of my thoughts yesterday BootinUp Jun 2024 #41

He already did MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #43

Tom, are you saying that the convicted felon "ACED" the hour long debate ? republianmushroom Jun 2024 #45

I didn't comment on Trump's debate performance, did I? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2024 #64

For some of us that is part of the problem. So many assessments of GoodRaisin Jun 2024 #70

WTAF??? And what, exactly, are your credentials for determining how PRESIDENT niyad Jun 2024 #50

Good OP. But things are tricky and complicated. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #51

Biden is our candidate and will remain our candidate Progressive dog Jun 2024 #52

The post debate polls will likely decide the outcome. nt. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #56

Preconceived ideas forthemiddle Jun 2024 #57

Is Trump going to submit himself to a press conference where he demonstrates DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #58

This need to stop. ColinC Jun 2024 #59

Oh yay more propaganda. edisdead Jun 2024 #60

Biden won the debate. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #62

+4 All Trump did was lie, used up the clock by Emile Jun 2024 #73

And the CNN "moderators" MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #104

Biden's campaign agreed well in advance TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #106

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #71

Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #74

LOL Emile Jun 2024 #76

I thought Joe won the debate. Emile Jun 2024 #75

Almost nice knowing you. William769 Jun 2024 #78

MIRt taking out the trash. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #80

... William769 Jun 2024 #81

People still ask.. what flavor of 🍕 Cha Jun 2024 #102

I sometimes ask obvious trolls what toppings they would like on their tombstone pizza. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #121

What Sitting Bull said ... DoBW Jun 2024 #72

Have you shared your wisdom with the Biden campaign? mcar Jun 2024 #77

It's not going to happen Azathoth Jun 2024 #84

I adamantly disagree with you. suegeo Jun 2024 #85

You must think there is still an actual Republican Party Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #103

That's nice. It's not going to happen ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #86

I'm with Biden SARose Jun 2024 #87

Why would VP Harris be involved in prosecuting Trump ? MichMan Jun 2024 #89

Nooooooo SARose Jun 2024 #112

Pearl clutching at its best...oh my, I need my fainting couch... Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #107

Haven't you heard? That debate performance didn't matter, and it's all Russian propaganda. Music Man Jun 2024 #108

Debates mean very little...and Biden's numbers are the same and higher if you believe poll. And Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #109

Respectfully, I disagree SARose Jun 2024 #114

"No one on our side imagined Biden would perform the way that he did on Thursday night" Polybius Jun 2024 #111

I was shocked DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #125

True, he was great at debating Polybius Jul 2024 #127

He beat TFG, Paul Ryan, and Sarah Palin DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #128

Always like your posts, Tom. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #113

My two cents JanLip Jun 2024 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author ificandream Jun 2024 #116

Excellent commentary and suggestion and it needs to be done as soon as possible. honest.abe Jun 2024 #118