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PeaceWave

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31. The problem is that folks are being asked to disregard what they heard and saw.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jun 2024

It's like the old line...Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes? It's only reasonable for people to take offense when they're faced with that choice. Personally, I think the campaign should have been 100% transparent and should have released the story about Biden having a cold PRIOR to the debate - in order to lower expectations. Releasing that story mid-debate came across as reactionary and panicked. Then, after the debate, the spin would have been so much easier...Something to the effect of "Even battling a cold, the truth prevailed tonight." Instead, we've seen various forms of "The experts agree it wasn't as bad as you think it was" - to which it's again reasonable to ask "Who is casting my vote? Me or "the experts?"

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We need to start refuting the propaganda in a calm, smart way. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #1
EarlG wrote a superb thread gab13by13 Jun 2024 #6
Yes it was a good EarlG OP. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #10
In a worse case scenario, and we had a different nominee, I believe we would still win. DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #17
We don't have data to support that at this point. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #19
The problem is that folks are being asked to disregard what they heard and saw. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #31
I do not believe we would win...you NEVER replace and incumbent unless they are dead. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #18
Exactly! We should all be talking about that Russian Quakerfriend Jun 2024 #2
The guy that is a convicted felon should step aside WA-03 Democrat Jun 2024 #3
Oh come on now. Goodheart Jun 2024 #4
Well, they are not doing Dems a favor, even if they are Dems themselves. wnylib Jun 2024 #7
Just one quote from Russian state TV gab13by13 Jun 2024 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #14
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2024 #37
Support Democrats. Biden won't step aside nor should he...did you even give a thought to Trump's lies? Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #39
That's an insulting question. Goodheart Jun 2024 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jun 2024 #5
Then why did Nicolle and Joy say they were getting texts from Democratic operatives during the debate? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #8
So all of the dozens of headlines I see gab13by13 Jun 2024 #11
Your OP said the narrative re: Biden stepping down originated from Russia Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #15
No answer to my questions? gab13by13 Jun 2024 #32
Your questions are irrelevant to the claim in your OP and my response. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #34
We should all stand and fight with Biden. Trueblue Texan Jun 2024 #22
"Democratic operatives" orangecrush Jun 2024 #28
Certainly a possibility Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #30
Oh for God's sake Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #9
Or some flat stupidity. IMO republianmushroom Jun 2024 #12
Absolutely. Hugin Jun 2024 #16
I said it last year that there's going to be multiple attempts to gaslight this election. Initech Jun 2024 #20
They do not think Joe will step down. That is not why they are writing these articles DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #21
K&R jmbar2 Jun 2024 #23
Russian mouthpieces have been pushing this hype since long before the "debate". It's part of the "Joe's too old to do Ford_Prefect Jun 2024 #24
Remember four years ago, MurrayDelph Jun 2024 #25
So were the calls for Al Franken to give up his senate seat. suegeo Jun 2024 #26
Yes - who would want a weaker candidate to compete against Trump Ocelot II Jun 2024 #27
If they're not asking the rapist and convicted felon to step aside... dlk Jun 2024 #29
it definitely is Trump propaganda Progressive dog Jun 2024 #33
And A LOT of US corporations are working to mess up the economy to help defeat Joe. Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #35
Putin needs for TFG to win LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #36
There have been calls for Joe to step aside for well over a year. shrike3 Jun 2024 #41
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