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Nixie

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56. That wasn't a "debate." It was a one-sided QAnon orgy of disinformation that is being legitimized
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:49 PM
Jun 2024

and carried mainstream now by the likes of news outlets like CNN. Nothing Trump said was legitimate discourse in the context of a debate. It was all conspiracies, intentional disinformation and distortion, outright lies, verbal abuse. As has been brought up here, "informational warfare" which is a great term for what we saw, although it is not information in the true sense. It was just plain verbal abuse. A lot of people are taken aback by a barrage of verbal abuse. That's what looked to be the case with Biden. He's an old-fashioned politician with gentlemanly good manners, and to be barraged with nothing but lies is not something easy to prep for.

These "debates" are getting to be very unnecessary and maybe need to be completely overhauled. Something like cutting the mic's if the questions are not answered directly.

Tapper and Bash acted very meekly, as I saw it, probably so that trump wouldn't attack them. Everyone has to act that way around him.

But if nastiness and lies are the new norm, then Biden could say ultra personal things, too. Asking why Trump's own wife wasn't there to support him -- did she not want to hear about his sex with a porn star? Where is all the money his daughter and her husband got from Saudi Arabia. Why was there a Russian jet parked next to trump's plane? What did Trump say to Putin in their private meeting. Why would you tell American's to inject bleach? Yikes, if it's just a shitshow, then don't worry about prep. Just insult away.

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CNN SUCKS, BIGLY!!!!!!!!!! Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #1
Tell us how you really feel! senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #2
It is dead to me. Mme. Defarge Jun 2024 #11
Dems should insist on fact checking as a condition of any future debate. Nt spooky3 Jun 2024 #3
Real time fact checking! senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #4
Totally agree and answer in 120 seconds his own comments FloridaBlues Jun 2024 #5
This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jun 2024 #6
Good point about the time senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #9
Remember Joe Isuzu? BidenRocks Jun 2024 #27
Said The Same Yesterday ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #38
Doesn't have to be fact-checking, just insist on an answer and call out blatant lies. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #22
Why are we debating someone charged MotownPgh Jun 2024 #52
I hope these two pompous asses get dragged through the mud. They deserve it! jrthin Jun 2024 #7
That would make me happy! liberalla Jun 2024 #19
Absolutely. Even how they framed their questions was slanted to disadvantage Joe, IMO. brush Jun 2024 #8
CNN's numbers were already in the toilet. MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #10
This is how to fact-check drumpf... JoseBalow Jun 2024 #12
That's the scene I pictured every time TFG spoke Raven123 Jun 2024 #18
Love it! sheshe2 Jun 2024 #28
I have the utmost respect for Rather awesomerwb1 Jun 2024 #13
ktla 5 los angles. AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #26
I agree about Katie Tur and Andrea Mitchell. I don't know why Andrea's still around. Bumbles Jun 2024 #32
Chris Jansing plays a pretty good game of whatabout... dchill Jun 2024 #35
Not wanting to be mean or petty, just giving advice. Bumbles Jun 2024 #47
K&R William769 Jun 2024 #14
Helpful reminder about Twitter nycbos Jun 2024 #15
Important point to remember about slamming TV 3825-87867 Jun 2024 #16
That's a good suggestion. Thanks. liberalla Jun 2024 #20
I'm going to go to bat for Tapper and Bash - sort of. They were instructed by CNN management flashman13 Jun 2024 #17
Maybe after this backlash they won't agree to these conditions again! And maybe other "journalists" will liberalla Jun 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jun 2024 #44
maybe they should be bashed for being good minions NoRethugFriends Jun 2024 #49
They were just following orders. tavernier Jun 2024 #21
I actually have a minor in journalism from a well regarded journalism dept senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #29
All True... sheshe2 Jun 2024 #33
And I'm just following odors. dchill Jun 2024 #37
The no fact checking seems to be a last minute decision and who made that decision is the question Bev54 Jun 2024 #24
And isn't it funny.... moose65 Jun 2024 #39
It was announced from the very beginning. I thought it was dumb at the time. nt LAS14 Jun 2024 #48
I was hoping that Cha Jun 2024 #25
They should have stopped the debate after every lie Dump told wolfie001 Jun 2024 #30
Remember SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #31
I do remember senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #34
It was in the reporting that I recall. elleng Jun 2024 #36
I recall hearing about it beforehand as well. Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #46
Thanks, and as it turned out, almost everything he said met that threshold. elleng Jun 2024 #50
They're getting a million-bucks to read questions? Seinan Sensei Jun 2024 #40
Lol senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #41
it might have been part of the deal... Trump acted like he was ready to LIE LIE LIE. WarGamer Jun 2024 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jun 2024 #43
Good Rebl2 Jun 2024 #45
Yes, where are the standards for journalism? senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #53
I can't believe we are trying to blame this on everyone who doesn't deserve the blame. I tried to Silent Type Jun 2024 #51
I propose a revised debate format with real-time fact-checking Sea A Chell Jun 2024 #54
Welcome to DU! senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #55
That wasn't a "debate." It was a one-sided QAnon orgy of disinformation that is being legitimized Nixie Jun 2024 #56
I'd love to see some of the Dems senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #57
It really is all very strange. I saw a conspiracy article that this early Nixie Jun 2024 #58
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