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John1956PA

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47. Hi, Irish Dem. I am thinking of a 2020 primary debate . . .

Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:08 PM

Jun 2024

. . . when then-candidate Biden was having a difficult time articulating a reply. He concluded in a bit of a mumble-like manner by stating, "I am out of time," when there was still more time available to him to conclude his thoughts. Anyway, I am sad about all of this. I just finished my part-time work shift, and I just want to call it a day. Take care.

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I Can't Put My Finger On It - But The Events Of The Past Few Days Are Very Suspect To Me..... [View all] global1 Jun 2024 OP

You've expressed my feelings that I wasn't able to put into words.. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #1

Even If You Listen To The Banter About This Whole Thing On MSNBC.... global1 Jun 2024 #4

We just have to stay calm and clear-headed. Like you, have been having unusual (for me) allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #100

To me this stinks of putin/kgb/fsb. No proof just the smell is familiar. nt mitch96 Jun 2024 #21

FSB? raccoon Jun 2024 #74

Formerly known as KGB think4yourself Jun 2024 #77

ruskie spy agency mitch96 Jun 2024 #79

I am feeling the same. Codifer Jun 2024 #30

The temptation to go conspiratorial is strong. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2024 #50

The design was simple and calculated. Codifer Jun 2024 #54

Like slipping Biden something into his tea... judy Jul 2024 #113

I totally agree. bamagal62 Jun 2024 #43

When we speak in these terms, we don't sound any better than the other side. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #48

I speak in terms of what I believe MAY be true. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #52

There are a number of possible reasons for Biden's performance in the debate. wnylib Jun 2024 #85

Hear, hear MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #106

Not at all.. whathehell Jun 2024 #82

My whole thing is bamagal62 Jun 2024 #88

I had an immediate intuitive sense that Joe was drugged. ElementaryPenguin Jul 2024 #103

Whatever it was something was definitely off MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #111

The media is a problem, yes. ananda Jun 2024 #2

I Like To Think That..... global1 Jun 2024 #7

Totally agree. ananda Jun 2024 #18

"THE MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM." Stuart G Jun 2024 #65

Remember the Wall Street Journal story about out of it Biden not long ago? shrike3 Jun 2024 #89

It's a fiction created by Republicans and the rightwing press. ananda Jun 2024 #91

No. BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #3

You are right. Stuff happens. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2024 #25

It's not just 81 year olds who have bad nights for goodness sake! Raven123 Jun 2024 #32

Is Biden 81? BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #42

Reminds me of this: orange jar Jun 2024 #62

THANK you GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #45

My fantasy is that Joe set the trap maptap22 Jun 2024 #5

Not silly. Not likely, but not silly. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #6

Me too. Solomon Jun 2024 #66

Rope-a-dope central scrutinizer Jun 2024 #11

No silly at all. Joe's always played the long game. Phoenix61 Jun 2024 #19

The only way the republicans can win is to cheat. Turbineguy Jun 2024 #8

Biden answered a question about abortion by talking about migrant murderers Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #9

Biden was tasked with countering Trump's lies and making his case. shrike3 Jun 2024 #90

It was a poor response to a question on abortion, that is a fact. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #92

Again, read what I said. shrike3 Jul 2024 #108

The attempt to counter Trump's Gish Gallop resulted in a garbled response Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #109

Obviously. BUT, he was the one expected to counter Trump lies. shrike3 Jul 2024 #110

Powerful financial interests thrive on the political mainstream, within reason bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #10

Yes, it's good this happened now instead of in the final weeks before the election. liberalla Jun 2024 #78

Isn't Bannon on his way to jail today? calimary Jul 2024 #99

Sorry, no. Goodheart Jun 2024 #12

Disinformation and Reflexive Control: The New Cold War jmbar2 Jun 2024 #13

Hardly new! 2016 daw it big time. triron Jun 2024 #16

I don't understand how this could have been sabotage. totodeinhere Jun 2024 #14

Of course it wasn't. Somebody's grasping at straws. Goodheart Jun 2024 #58

I've had the same feeling dlk Jun 2024 #15

Perhaps an advisor told him "Just look really stunned at the evil and the lies and you'll win." barbaraann Jun 2024 #39

While there is all kinds of fuckery, we can't be like the GQP cult. It was an awful performance. We can't deny it. themaguffin Jun 2024 #17

It was a much better performance orangecrush Jun 2024 #24

of course, but it's not about what we think. themaguffin Jun 2024 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Jun 2024 #84

While I don't think it's a mass conspiracy, NoveltySocks Jun 2024 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #22

Seeing Joe at the rally orangecrush Jun 2024 #23

On Fire The Day After The Debate Ruhama Jun 2024 #29

That's what I thought immediately greymattermom Jun 2024 #51

Most of corporate America is UN-American Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #26

Are you saying that part of the plan was to make sure Joe had a cold so that his Sogo Jun 2024 #27

I also think this was a set up. Psychological warfare suegeo Jun 2024 #28

I agree- all excellent points Tumbulu Jul 2024 #93

Are you saying this was an inside job? Groundhawg Jun 2024 #31

It wasn't very well planned in my book. sybylla Jun 2024 #33

My thoughts exactly. lotusblossom Jun 2024 #34

My feelings EXACTLY! Bluesaph Jun 2024 #35

It wasn't sabatage, Biden had a very bad night. doc03 Jun 2024 #36

Appearance Blue Full Moon Jun 2024 #73

The interview Blue Full Moon Jun 2024 #37

I do karin_sj Jun 2024 #38

Yes! I had the same thoughts. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #40

I am having suspicions as well. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #41

Hi, Irish Dem. I am thinking of a 2020 primary debate . . . John1956PA Jun 2024 #47

We have to factor in Joe's speech disorder (stuttering.) Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #53

Don't worry. murielm99 Jun 2024 #57

Trump was stupid the next day. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #61

Exactly the media is pushing Tree Lady Jun 2024 #44

When you say "set up" are you blaming the Biden campaign? brooklynite Jun 2024 #46

Until Biden's number one spokesman MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #49

Every news service has the word 'disaster'. louis-t Jun 2024 #55

Where are the headlines about Melania proud patriot Jun 2024 #56

I had the same feeling Beck23 Jun 2024 #59

Yes same here. The attack was also suspicious. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #70

Suspicions? people Jun 2024 #60

A wild speculation Beck23 Jun 2024 #63

It is a possibility that has to be considered. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #71

I didn't watch the debate and stayed far from the news and DU since Thursday Boomerproud Jun 2024 #75

Yes exactly. From a clinical standpoint the rapid turnaround is notable. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #95

That would suggest the Secret Service was in on it. MichMan Jun 2024 #83

If nothing else, it's shifted the larger discussion to competency. And that may not be something the Trump campaign ColinC Jun 2024 #64

Chump's competency bar is buried so deep that no one can prove exists. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #68

Our opposition is always planning a hit job and they are the Dirty Trick party for sure. Ligyron Jun 2024 #67

Are you saying many here are gullible idiots? Kaleva Jun 2024 #69

yes joanbarnes Jun 2024 #72

Did the President sabotage himself? BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2024 #76

I don't think that's what the post was suggesting and I don't think Biden wants out liberalla Jun 2024 #80

I admit to having similar thoughts, feelings and questions. Something's way 'off', but what is it? liberalla Jun 2024 #86

Me. Been saying it, too. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #87

Immediately when it started I suspected something weird was going on Tumbulu Jul 2024 #94

It was beneath the dignity of the Office of the President of the United States John Shaft Jul 2024 #96

Whatever it is it's going to backfire. Glaisne Jul 2024 #97

It almost is like Leonard Leo and SCOTUS and the hit teams in the House and Senate got paid off flying_wahini Jul 2024 #98

It does seem like a wheel has come off for sure. Whether that's because someone loosened the lug nuts KPN Jul 2024 #101

This makes more sense to me JanLip Jul 2024 #102

Something's fishy, that's for sure!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2024 #104

trump is DownriverDem Jul 2024 #105

Yup, it's a curious situation, nt wendyb-NC Jul 2024 #107

Which Democratic Party leaders? ECL213 Jul 2024 #112

We had a 2 minute delay Biden4eva Jul 2024 #114

The claim that it was delayed is false. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #115