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H2O Man

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37. Interesting.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 06:15 PM
Jun 2024

I had phone calls, e-mails, and discussions with relatives & friends the night of the debate and following day. Many of the either said they thought President Biden should step down, or asked if I thought he should? I think that to call those who expressed that in some way of being under Russian control is very weak indeed. Same with the knee-jerk calling them trolls. Almost without exception, they are life-long, dedicated members of the Democratic Party.

I told all of them that no major decision in life should be made due to emotions. In the days since, I have patiently explained whythat is not possible. Understanding the process provides unique advantages.

Let's not pretend that Joe did not have a bad night. He did, for a variety of reasons. Being old and a long-time supporter of the president, I can say that he has never been among the best speakers our party has produced. His greatest strength as a campaigner is his sincerity. That's how he wins elections. And his performance in office over the years, including as president, have shown him to be very capable in his job duties.

I still have some relatives and friends who think he should step down. They are all loyal Democrats, with as much right to their opinions as I have to mine. Every last one of them will campaign and vote for President Biden. They were just upset by the debate.

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We need to start refuting the propaganda in a calm, smart way. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #1
EarlG wrote a superb thread gab13by13 Jun 2024 #6
Yes it was a good EarlG OP. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #10
In a worse case scenario, and we had a different nominee, I believe we would still win. DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #17
We don't have data to support that at this point. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #19
The problem is that folks are being asked to disregard what they heard and saw. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #31
I do not believe we would win...you NEVER replace and incumbent unless they are dead. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #18
Exactly! We should all be talking about that Russian Quakerfriend Jun 2024 #2
The guy that is a convicted felon should step aside WA-03 Democrat Jun 2024 #3
Oh come on now. Goodheart Jun 2024 #4
Well, they are not doing Dems a favor, even if they are Dems themselves. wnylib Jun 2024 #7
Just one quote from Russian state TV gab13by13 Jun 2024 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #14
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2024 #37
Support Democrats. Biden won't step aside nor should he...did you even give a thought to Trump's lies? Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #39
That's an insulting question. Goodheart Jun 2024 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jun 2024 #5
Then why did Nicolle and Joy say they were getting texts from Democratic operatives during the debate? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #8
So all of the dozens of headlines I see gab13by13 Jun 2024 #11
Your OP said the narrative re: Biden stepping down originated from Russia Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #15
No answer to my questions? gab13by13 Jun 2024 #32
Your questions are irrelevant to the claim in your OP and my response. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #34
We should all stand and fight with Biden. Trueblue Texan Jun 2024 #22
"Democratic operatives" orangecrush Jun 2024 #28
Certainly a possibility Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #30
Oh for God's sake Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #9
Or some flat stupidity. IMO republianmushroom Jun 2024 #12
Absolutely. Hugin Jun 2024 #16
I said it last year that there's going to be multiple attempts to gaslight this election. Initech Jun 2024 #20
They do not think Joe will step down. That is not why they are writing these articles DontBelieveEastisEas Jun 2024 #21
K&R jmbar2 Jun 2024 #23
Russian mouthpieces have been pushing this hype since long before the "debate". It's part of the "Joe's too old to do Ford_Prefect Jun 2024 #24
Remember four years ago, MurrayDelph Jun 2024 #25
So were the calls for Al Franken to give up his senate seat. suegeo Jun 2024 #26
Yes - who would want a weaker candidate to compete against Trump Ocelot II Jun 2024 #27
If they're not asking the rapist and convicted felon to step aside... dlk Jun 2024 #29
it definitely is Trump propaganda Progressive dog Jun 2024 #33
And A LOT of US corporations are working to mess up the economy to help defeat Joe. Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #35
Putin needs for TFG to win LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #36
There have been calls for Joe to step aside for well over a year. shrike3 Jun 2024 #41
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