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EarlG

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34. I havent heard the clip so I could be wrong, but

Sun Jun 30, 2024, 06:27 PM

Jun 2024

I came to the same conclusion as you from reading the quotes. "'Honest and serious conversations are taking place" are Raskin's words, but "about Biden's political future after debate" is an editorial comment added by NBC.

I think the "honest and serious conversations" are about what would happen if Biden chose to quit the race of his own accord, not to decide his political future for him.

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Rep. Jamie Raskin says 'honest and serious conversations are taking place' about Biden's political future after debate [View all] ClearSky24 Jun 2024 OP

I guess Raskin didn't get the memo from DU Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #1

I'm sorry, what is it about Raskin that makes his rhetoric involiable? bigtree Jun 2024 #4

What got my attention was his acknowledgment that conversations about next steps were taking place Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #8

you mean a group of people who haven't yet taken any responsibility for the campaign bigtree Jun 2024 #32

Star chamber? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #50

As do I True Dough Jul 2024 #126

I do not think "the knives are out" to get rid of Joe. honest.abe Jul 2024 #133

"I'm sorry, what is it about Raskin that makes his rhetoric involiable?" TheProle Jun 2024 #11

I'm not sure he's saying what you think he's saying EarlG Jun 2024 #16

Well, Biden is not dropping out so Raskin shouldn't worry about it. LisaL Jun 2024 #21

I think it's a bit more than that, or had the potential to be bigtree Jun 2024 #44

Fair enough EarlG Jun 2024 #47

to be fair bigtree Jun 2024 #49

It seems likely EarlG Jun 2024 #52

so you have senior legislators who are also meddling with our votes bigtree Jun 2024 #36

Got that right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #116

What's to discuss? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #54

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #80

And yet EndlessWire Jun 2024 #94

Unfortunately, he's looked that way before, though not as obvious. If I thought it wouldn't happen again, Silent Type Jun 2024 #112

You picked up on every single thing me and my family saw. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #108

Sarcasm isn't helpful dlk Jul 2024 #130

Glad to hear this... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #2

Voters have already concluded this. LisaL Jun 2024 #3

I agree. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #5

I agree. The issue must be discussed or we stay stuck. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #72

A good, nuanced take from Raskin. orange jar Jun 2024 #6

Agreed! peggysue2 Jun 2024 #13

We don't know what it means at this point. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #74

You're right, Irish peggysue2 Jun 2024 #81

I agree very much. Raskin is a serious and sober voice. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #83

I am logging off. Blue Cape Jun 2024 #7

Same here. anciano Jun 2024 #30

Wow. These are serious conversations if Raskin is involved. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #9

Whatever conversations Raskin is having, Biden has won the primaries and got enough votes LisaL Jun 2024 #10

Take the time to listen to the clip dweller Jun 2024 #12

I havent heard the clip so I could be wrong, but EarlG Jun 2024 #34

True dweller Jun 2024 #46

When our candidate is 81 shouldn't we always have a backup plan in place? questionseverything Jun 2024 #57

Plan "B" is more of Plan "A" nt doc03 Jun 2024 #63

We do dlk Jul 2024 #131

What do you mean about Raskin and NBC's agenda? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #75

I didn't say Raskin ... agenda dweller Jun 2024 #92

You mean NBC is not quoting Raskin accurately? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #95

Link in the OP dweller Jun 2024 #102

Article is just quoting the video. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #105

This is what it sounds like to me. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #73

I'm still not hearing it EarlG Jun 2024 #14

I would not support any effort to force Biden out TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #31

Ah, yes. Jonathan Allen... lapucelle Jun 2024 #40

But why is Raskin talking about Biden possibly dropping out? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #77

Trip to Camp David was scheduled before the debate. LisaL Jun 2024 #79

Shame on him. Joe's advisers got MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #15

Read it one more time? EarlG Jun 2024 #22

What makes him think Biden could drop out? LisaL Jun 2024 #26

I just went and watched the clip at the link EarlG Jun 2024 #41

The problem is that my local TV channels are spinning this the other way, gab13by13 Jun 2024 #51

Just the fact that he uttered those words is MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #53

YES: "One thing I can tell you is that regardless of what President Biden decides" Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #78

So now we're accusing Trump of taking drugs? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #35

Seems like Raskin is just getting ahead GenThePerservering Jun 2024 #17

After listening to him, I am confused on what exactly they will and will not do. LisaL Jun 2024 #19

I'm only interested in ONE persons decision here. That's bluestarone Jun 2024 #18

That's essentially what Raskin's saying. orange jar Jun 2024 #20

If you have to guess as to WTF he was actually saying it wasn't a good speech. LisaL Jun 2024 #24

That is what Raskin is saying, they will support Biden's decision. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #82

Gee MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #23

Yeah, that is because it is made up bull shit. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #28

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #33

There's one congressman who already talked about it during the primary campaign: DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #37

I dont think its made up EarlG Jun 2024 #45

But Raskin is making public comments. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #97

Hopefully Raskin will clarify EarlG Jul 2024 #121

EarlG, I think Raskin's comments are clear. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #122

Our interpretations are pretty much in line EarlG Jul 2024 #123

I agree, Raskin is saying it is Biden's choice Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #129

Do you think Raskin is making up BS? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #84

Biden is not getting out over a fucking debate. Give me a break...we would lose if he did... period. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #25

Disappointed by Raskin GoreWon2000 Jun 2024 #27

I agree. LisaL Jun 2024 #29

We wouldn't be. But it is not the goal of the media to give us a 'better' candidate DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #39

It was Raskin who claimed that the party is going to be united, whatever happens. LisaL Jun 2024 #42

If they do this. I'm out and I will never vote again. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #48

I'm with you on this. StarryNite Jun 2024 #58

Yes, don't vote -- so you can stand tall & proud when the Orange Diaperload wins? ClickClack Jun 2024 #61

100,000 Recs electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #96

I have voted in every fucking election since I turned 18. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #110

What if it is determined that Joe is actually deteriorating mentally and physically and decides to drop out? honest.abe Jul 2024 #136

And what the heck good does That do?! You just can't not vote against drumphf Whomever the Democrats' Candidate is! I electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #91

This is Putin's goal. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #101

Nice attack. Keep trying. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #134

I will never stop speaking out against Putin. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #135

Way to cut off everyone's noses to spite your face. Incredibly mature. NoRethugFriends Jun 2024 #115

You should vote dem all the way. If the party collectively oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #119

Now that is a ridiculous childish comment. honest.abe Jul 2024 #125

Raskin states he supports Biden's decision. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #86

I'm beginning to think the game is who can make the most dramatic inference from the least amount of information. Torchlight Jun 2024 #38

I have it from absolute definitive anonymous sources that Donald Trump DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #43

Are you sure it's not the other way around. N/T. airplaneman Jul 2024 #139

I give Pigs credit for having better taste than that... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #140

Is Raskin a Russian troll? Goodheart Jun 2024 #55

Have you been gargling with bath salts? ClickClack Jun 2024 #62

Raskin is not a Russian troll. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #89

BS Rep Raskin. Love you but....BS LakeArenal Jun 2024 #56

We stood behind Raskin during his battle with cancer. StarryNite Jun 2024 #60

Raskin's comments were fine up until the "someone else" comment. Freethinker65 Jun 2024 #59

Coming from Raskin they must be very serious discussions. Watch the doc03 Jun 2024 #64

I agree the discussions must be serious Raven123 Jun 2024 #65

Yes I found his comments unsettling as well. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #99

If the WaPo article cited in another thread is accurate Raven123 Jul 2024 #128

Jebus. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #132

You are 100% correct. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #90

Done with this stuff...trash. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #66

Excellent point. Unfortunately this is in the general discussion category, so I can't trash the group because of JohnSJ Jun 2024 #69

Of course members of the progressive caucus would like someone from the left so we can repeat 1972 JohnSJ Jun 2024 #67

And Biden has no desire to step down whatsoever. LisaL Jun 2024 #68

I know, I am just speculating where some may be coming from, and why an open convention has the potential JohnSJ Jun 2024 #70

Two days ago, Dem leaders were all supporting Biden. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #71

Well he is delusional if he thinks the party can remain LisaL Jun 2024 #76

In situations like this they need to zip it. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #85

I agree. StarryNite Jun 2024 #87

I like him too, but I find it hard to understand as to LisaL Jun 2024 #88

It is not like Raskin to speak carelessly. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #93

I don't see how his statement even makes sense FBaggins Jun 2024 #98

He hopes the party stays unified no matter what happens. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #100

Biden does not want to drop out. LisaL Jun 2024 #103

This sounds like it's getting serious if someone like Raskin is openly saying this. honest.abe Jun 2024 #104

WTH? It's too late to make a change. Back Joe and go after the ciminal rapist. brush Jun 2024 #106

If the convention of delegates picks a different candidate then that oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #120

Raskin also mentioned that the fact these conversations are happening dflprincess Jun 2024 #107

Yea, super healthy. LisaL Jun 2024 #109

Good. I hope they come up with the best strategy, even if that is Biden and support Silent Type Jun 2024 #111

dumb dumb dumb. hillary won all 3 handily + DID SHE WIN? joe ain't hillary or lurch. pansypoo53219 Jun 2024 #113

Jamie Raskin knows better dlk Jun 2024 #114

That's why this is significant. honest.abe Jul 2024 #124

This should be Biden's last election nakocal Jun 2024 #117

Let's pretend that he could (no 22nd Amendment) and did in 2028 Polybius Jul 2024 #141

Deleted helpisontheway Jun 2024 #118

I wouldn't discount the self-serving possibility FBaggins Jul 2024 #127

I doubt this is about Raskin having interest in being a replacement candidate. honest.abe Jul 2024 #137

I'm concerned as well FBaggins Jul 2024 #138

Exactly. LisaL Jul 2024 #142