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oldmanlynn

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120. If the convention of delegates picks a different candidate then that

Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:54 PM

Jun 2024

Is what happens. An open convention. The party has to put the best candidate forward and we ( supporting the fight against fascism) must unite and stay together and vote like the future depends on it

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Rep. Jamie Raskin says 'honest and serious conversations are taking place' about Biden's political future after debate [View all] ClearSky24 Jun 2024 OP

I guess Raskin didn't get the memo from DU Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #1

I'm sorry, what is it about Raskin that makes his rhetoric involiable? bigtree Jun 2024 #4

What got my attention was his acknowledgment that conversations about next steps were taking place Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #8

you mean a group of people who haven't yet taken any responsibility for the campaign bigtree Jun 2024 #32

Star chamber? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #50

As do I True Dough Jul 2024 #126

I do not think "the knives are out" to get rid of Joe. honest.abe Jul 2024 #133

"I'm sorry, what is it about Raskin that makes his rhetoric involiable?" TheProle Jun 2024 #11

I'm not sure he's saying what you think he's saying EarlG Jun 2024 #16

Well, Biden is not dropping out so Raskin shouldn't worry about it. LisaL Jun 2024 #21

I think it's a bit more than that, or had the potential to be bigtree Jun 2024 #44

Fair enough EarlG Jun 2024 #47

to be fair bigtree Jun 2024 #49

It seems likely EarlG Jun 2024 #52

so you have senior legislators who are also meddling with our votes bigtree Jun 2024 #36

Got that right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #116

What's to discuss? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #54

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #80

And yet EndlessWire Jun 2024 #94

Unfortunately, he's looked that way before, though not as obvious. If I thought it wouldn't happen again, Silent Type Jun 2024 #112

You picked up on every single thing me and my family saw. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #108

Sarcasm isn't helpful dlk Jul 2024 #130

Glad to hear this... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #2

Voters have already concluded this. LisaL Jun 2024 #3

I agree. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #5

I agree. The issue must be discussed or we stay stuck. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #72

A good, nuanced take from Raskin. orange jar Jun 2024 #6

Agreed! peggysue2 Jun 2024 #13

We don't know what it means at this point. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #74

You're right, Irish peggysue2 Jun 2024 #81

I agree very much. Raskin is a serious and sober voice. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #83

I am logging off. Blue Cape Jun 2024 #7

Same here. anciano Jun 2024 #30

Wow. These are serious conversations if Raskin is involved. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #9

Whatever conversations Raskin is having, Biden has won the primaries and got enough votes LisaL Jun 2024 #10

Take the time to listen to the clip dweller Jun 2024 #12

I havent heard the clip so I could be wrong, but EarlG Jun 2024 #34

True dweller Jun 2024 #46

When our candidate is 81 shouldn't we always have a backup plan in place? questionseverything Jun 2024 #57

Plan "B" is more of Plan "A" nt doc03 Jun 2024 #63

We do dlk Jul 2024 #131

What do you mean about Raskin and NBC's agenda? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #75

I didn't say Raskin ... agenda dweller Jun 2024 #92

You mean NBC is not quoting Raskin accurately? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #95

Link in the OP dweller Jun 2024 #102

Article is just quoting the video. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #105

This is what it sounds like to me. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #73

I'm still not hearing it EarlG Jun 2024 #14

I would not support any effort to force Biden out TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #31

Ah, yes. Jonathan Allen... lapucelle Jun 2024 #40

But why is Raskin talking about Biden possibly dropping out? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #77

Trip to Camp David was scheduled before the debate. LisaL Jun 2024 #79

Shame on him. Joe's advisers got MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #15

Read it one more time? EarlG Jun 2024 #22

What makes him think Biden could drop out? LisaL Jun 2024 #26

I just went and watched the clip at the link EarlG Jun 2024 #41

The problem is that my local TV channels are spinning this the other way, gab13by13 Jun 2024 #51

Just the fact that he uttered those words is MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #53

YES: "One thing I can tell you is that regardless of what President Biden decides" Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #78

So now we're accusing Trump of taking drugs? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #35

Seems like Raskin is just getting ahead GenThePerservering Jun 2024 #17

After listening to him, I am confused on what exactly they will and will not do. LisaL Jun 2024 #19

I'm only interested in ONE persons decision here. That's bluestarone Jun 2024 #18

That's essentially what Raskin's saying. orange jar Jun 2024 #20

If you have to guess as to WTF he was actually saying it wasn't a good speech. LisaL Jun 2024 #24

That is what Raskin is saying, they will support Biden's decision. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #82

Gee MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #23

Yeah, that is because it is made up bull shit. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #28

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #33

There's one congressman who already talked about it during the primary campaign: DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #37

I dont think its made up EarlG Jun 2024 #45

But Raskin is making public comments. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #97

Hopefully Raskin will clarify EarlG Jul 2024 #121

EarlG, I think Raskin's comments are clear. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #122

Our interpretations are pretty much in line EarlG Jul 2024 #123

I agree, Raskin is saying it is Biden's choice Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #129

Do you think Raskin is making up BS? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #84

Biden is not getting out over a fucking debate. Give me a break...we would lose if he did... period. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #25

Disappointed by Raskin GoreWon2000 Jun 2024 #27

I agree. LisaL Jun 2024 #29

We wouldn't be. But it is not the goal of the media to give us a 'better' candidate DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #39

It was Raskin who claimed that the party is going to be united, whatever happens. LisaL Jun 2024 #42

If they do this. I'm out and I will never vote again. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #48

I'm with you on this. StarryNite Jun 2024 #58

Yes, don't vote -- so you can stand tall & proud when the Orange Diaperload wins? ClickClack Jun 2024 #61

100,000 Recs electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #96

I have voted in every fucking election since I turned 18. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #110

What if it is determined that Joe is actually deteriorating mentally and physically and decides to drop out? honest.abe Jul 2024 #136

And what the heck good does That do?! You just can't not vote against drumphf Whomever the Democrats' Candidate is! I electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #91

This is Putin's goal. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #101

Nice attack. Keep trying. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #134

I will never stop speaking out against Putin. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #135

Way to cut off everyone's noses to spite your face. Incredibly mature. NoRethugFriends Jun 2024 #115

You should vote dem all the way. If the party collectively oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #119

Now that is a ridiculous childish comment. honest.abe Jul 2024 #125

Raskin states he supports Biden's decision. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #86

I'm beginning to think the game is who can make the most dramatic inference from the least amount of information. Torchlight Jun 2024 #38

I have it from absolute definitive anonymous sources that Donald Trump DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #43

Are you sure it's not the other way around. N/T. airplaneman Jul 2024 #139

I give Pigs credit for having better taste than that... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #140

Is Raskin a Russian troll? Goodheart Jun 2024 #55

Have you been gargling with bath salts? ClickClack Jun 2024 #62

Raskin is not a Russian troll. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #89

BS Rep Raskin. Love you but....BS LakeArenal Jun 2024 #56

We stood behind Raskin during his battle with cancer. StarryNite Jun 2024 #60

Raskin's comments were fine up until the "someone else" comment. Freethinker65 Jun 2024 #59

Coming from Raskin they must be very serious discussions. Watch the doc03 Jun 2024 #64

I agree the discussions must be serious Raven123 Jun 2024 #65

Yes I found his comments unsettling as well. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #99

If the WaPo article cited in another thread is accurate Raven123 Jul 2024 #128

Jebus. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #132

You are 100% correct. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #90

Done with this stuff...trash. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #66

Excellent point. Unfortunately this is in the general discussion category, so I can't trash the group because of JohnSJ Jun 2024 #69

Of course members of the progressive caucus would like someone from the left so we can repeat 1972 JohnSJ Jun 2024 #67

And Biden has no desire to step down whatsoever. LisaL Jun 2024 #68

I know, I am just speculating where some may be coming from, and why an open convention has the potential JohnSJ Jun 2024 #70

Two days ago, Dem leaders were all supporting Biden. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #71

Well he is delusional if he thinks the party can remain LisaL Jun 2024 #76

In situations like this they need to zip it. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #85

I agree. StarryNite Jun 2024 #87

I like him too, but I find it hard to understand as to LisaL Jun 2024 #88

It is not like Raskin to speak carelessly. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #93

I don't see how his statement even makes sense FBaggins Jun 2024 #98

He hopes the party stays unified no matter what happens. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #100

Biden does not want to drop out. LisaL Jun 2024 #103

This sounds like it's getting serious if someone like Raskin is openly saying this. honest.abe Jun 2024 #104

WTH? It's too late to make a change. Back Joe and go after the ciminal rapist. brush Jun 2024 #106

If the convention of delegates picks a different candidate then that oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #120

Raskin also mentioned that the fact these conversations are happening dflprincess Jun 2024 #107

Yea, super healthy. LisaL Jun 2024 #109

Good. I hope they come up with the best strategy, even if that is Biden and support Silent Type Jun 2024 #111

dumb dumb dumb. hillary won all 3 handily + DID SHE WIN? joe ain't hillary or lurch. pansypoo53219 Jun 2024 #113

Jamie Raskin knows better dlk Jun 2024 #114

That's why this is significant. honest.abe Jul 2024 #124

This should be Biden's last election nakocal Jun 2024 #117

Let's pretend that he could (no 22nd Amendment) and did in 2028 Polybius Jul 2024 #141

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I wouldn't discount the self-serving possibility FBaggins Jul 2024 #127

I doubt this is about Raskin having interest in being a replacement candidate. honest.abe Jul 2024 #137

I'm concerned as well FBaggins Jul 2024 #138

Exactly. LisaL Jul 2024 #142