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wnylib

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34. That correlation has crossed my mind, too.
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 12:28 PM
Jul 2024

The suggestion that he was secretly drugged does sound like a conspiracy theory, so I don't want to endorse it. It reminds me of Medieval kings who had food testers to avoid being poisoned by enemies. Without evidence to prove it, we would sound like the orange maggot himself.

But the suggestion does make me wonder if it would have been possible. Trump had covid at one of his debates in 2020 and he and his entourage tried to infect Biden by arriving late, refusing to be tested and refusing to wear masks. So, yes, the chief maggot is capable of doing such a thing.

Trump lied to create the impression that Biden was on performance enhancing drugs at the SOTU. He was obsessed with discussing drugs and Biden. He pushed very hard the image of Biden as old and feebleminded. Consequently, all of us on DU and everyone in the media were saying that Biden had to prove him wrong by having a good performance at the debate. But then he didn't and some people thought that Trump could have been right. But most of us were shocked because we know that Biden's accomplishments prove his abilities.

So, yes, it seems possible, given how Trump often talks about things that sound ridiculous at the time and later turn out to have been hints at what he was up to. But he'd have to have had someone close enough to Biden's food or drinks to spike them. Security around the president is tight. So, how could it be probable or even possible?

Regarding OTC cold medicines, yes, some are capable of producing lightheadedness, absentmindedness. I've had multiple allergies most of my life. I also have been very prone to colds and viral infections most of my life. I've tried different kinds of medicines so I know the side effects they can produce. Medicines do wear off after a while. Whether a medicine could affect the debate performance and not be so active after 90+ minutes depends on when it was taken.

But, I avoided those medicines if I had an important test coming up in school because of the side effects - except when my cold or allergy symptoms were so bad that they were worse than the med side effects would have been. If Biden had a cold that caused coughing spells he might have calculated that medicine side effects were better than bursts of coughing spells during the debate.

Without proof, we don't know if any drugs played a part. All we do know is that the debate Bidrn was not the typical Biden who is a proven good president that I'm proud to support.














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the concern bigtree Jun 2024 #1
Read the Newsweek piece, what those doctors said. They believe it could likely have been some highplainsdem Jun 2024 #4
these Yale professors fine with diagnosing the President from that distance? bigtree Jun 2024 #10
The evident symptoms match what they're talking about. And some DUers have had problems with cold highplainsdem Jun 2024 #11
he had a little cold bigtree Jun 2024 #14
I'm 70 and have had very few colds in my life. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #15
Much better excuse than a "cold." But I'm glad Biden's team isn't using that to see if it stick. Silent Type Jun 2024 #2
George Foreman walked into Africa where he was despised as the people loved Ali GreenWave Jun 2024 #5
From all reports he was Ok at his Atlanta appearance less than an hour after the debate. former9thward Jun 2024 #3
There are drugs that wear off quickly. That's mentioned in the Newsweek piece I linked to. highplainsdem Jun 2024 #6
he was still coughing a little at the Waffle House when he spoke. bigtree Jun 2024 #9
Even the Twitter post admits a viral infection would cause that behavior ColinC Jun 2024 #13
Was so sick with a cold/flu that I took like 10 coricidin back in 60s. It hit me, I could not walk, talk, etc. I was 19 Silent Type Jun 2024 #20
It's certainly possible but wouldn't be the first thing that came to mind. captain queeg Jun 2024 #7
I see a correlation willamette Jun 2024 #8
That correlation has crossed my mind, too. wnylib Jul 2024 #34
Doped ice cream? Poppyseed muffins/bagels, LOTS of poppyseeds? usonian Jun 2024 #12
Usonian, if you want to know doctors think a drug could have caused that change in Biden, read highplainsdem Jun 2024 #17
Will do. usonian Jun 2024 #21
Oh, God. 117? Stay safe... highplainsdem Jul 2024 #28
I thought that was a strong possibility as well Uncle Joe Jun 2024 #16
You're welcome! I agree completely with what you said there. Trump is a thug. He's also someone who'd be highplainsdem Jun 2024 #19
and the instant coordination from the mouthpieces of FOX lite Uncle Joe Jun 2024 #23
Doc Ronny seems to be a wiz with drugs. MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #18
The left going full qanon. Great nt Azathoth Jun 2024 #22
More like D-anon... obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2024 #39
I can see it ... DoBW Jun 2024 #24
I wondered the same. Or, a mini-stroke lostnfound Jun 2024 #25
Drugs wildflowergardener Jun 2024 #26
When I was suffering a particularly bad case of COPD Metaphorical Jun 2024 #27
So sorry you've had COPD. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #29
Old Bar Scam Revisited P2P Jul 2024 #30
The one person that knows Joe best is his MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #31
No MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #32
Well if a PODCASTER suggests it happened, no additional evidence is needed. brooklynite Jul 2024 #33
It is farfetched n/t shrike3 Jul 2024 #36
Maybe that's what Woodward was angling for the other day? shrike3 Jul 2024 #35
About as likely as saying Space Aliens used mind control for those 90 minutes... silliness. WarGamer Jul 2024 #37
Much depends on moondust Jul 2024 #38
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