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70. Hypothetical SEAL Team 6 political assassination resurfaces in Supreme Court presidential immunity dissent

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Mon Jul 1, 2024, 05:31 PM

Jul 2024

Could a commander in chief order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival and not face criminal prosecution? That is the provocative hypothetical raised by two Supreme Court justices in their dissents on the high court's ruling regarding former President Donald Trump's immunity case.

The Supreme Court on Monday said former presidents are entitled to some protections for "official" acts, though said there is no immunity for "unofficial" acts -- rejecting Trump's sweeping claim of "absolute" immunity from criminal prosecution in his federal election subversion case.

"This new official-acts immunity now 'lies about like a loaded weapon' for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation," Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.

When the president "uses his official powers in any way, under the majority's reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution," she continued. "Orders the Navy's Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/seal-team-6-assassination-hypothetical-scotus-presidential-immunity/story?id=111583216

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For all our fantasizing about Biden ordering Seal Team 6, here's what he really needs to do ASAP: [View all] Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 OP

Sounds good to me! Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #1

I agree, it's past time to start playing hardball.. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #2

And then fire Judge Cannon. dawg Jul 2024 #3

And then fire all the conservative justices on the supreme court!! BComplex Jul 2024 #8

Immunity doesn't give him additional powers Zeitghost Jul 2024 #81

Nope, I would do the exact opposite gab13by13 Jul 2024 #4

I don't think the two message are conflicting Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #5

The comparison to what Trump would do with such powers should be at the forefront of every voter's mind. jaxexpat Jul 2024 #33

No way, Jose. triron Jul 2024 #6

Que paso? JoseBalow Jul 2024 #47

No EndlessWire Jul 2024 #14

I think that the OP list is absolutely on the mark. wnylib Jul 2024 #22

Absolutely correct. Codifer Jul 2024 #61

That is actually brilliant! BComplex Jul 2024 #31

I think it is too late for that approach delisen Jul 2024 #44

Biden can and needs to say both uponit7771 Jul 2024 #60

Don't wait until Labor day, remove the traitors on the court and appoint new members. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #7

Due to the separation of powers in the Constutution wnylib Jul 2024 #12

I'm not trying to be mean, but there is zero serperation of powers. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #15

I don't think that you are being mean, just inaccurate. wnylib Jul 2024 #18

We don't have to because that is exactly what six individuals has done if DJT is elected. usaf-vet Jul 2024 #21

No, I didn't say throw away the Constitution... Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #24

Your end goal is good, but the means is not, IMO. wnylib Jul 2024 #28

Your post made me LOL. A first step of getting "the majority of the nation alert and aware"...? lostnfound Jul 2024 #74

Most people do not follow politics like DU posters do. wnylib Jul 2024 #77

I do not see how we avoid the eventuality of a civil war edisdead Jul 2024 #82

I just finished posting that same thought on another thread. wnylib Jul 2024 #91

You are confusing immunity with impunity Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #40

The Supreme court gave Donald immunity for official acts. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #48

Walk me through the steps that would take to implement Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #51

He is King while officially acting as such. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #53

You skipped a few steps Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #54

King Biden would be moving against a coup with exceptional measures. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #55

So, were you going to explain how this imperial impunity works? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #57

No, he can't Zeitghost Jul 2024 #84

The court also explicitly said that soldierant Jul 2024 #78

He can't do it alone Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #87

No need to replace them. plantwomyn Jul 2024 #104

I have no disagreement with that statement. wnylib Jul 2024 #86

BWAHAHAHAHA edisdead Jul 2024 #80

Save the dramatic laughs for people who are impressed by them. wnylib Jul 2024 #92

And we are all on the same team...Biden all the way. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #105

Thank you. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #100

The President has the power to nominate if there is a vacancy Zeitghost Jul 2024 #83

The POTUS needs to remind them that he has SEAL teams on speed-dial. John Farmer Jul 2024 #9

And then toss tfg in the slammer for treason and shut down faux news Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #10

Exactly none of that will happen Orrex Jul 2024 #11

I think that we must speak up now while we still can, wnylib Jul 2024 #26

You have a more charitable opinion than the American public than I do. Orrex Jul 2024 #29

I think that there are a lot of Americans who wnylib Jul 2024 #45

Because WE obey and respect the laws. Clearly, they don't. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #97

With all due respect to Michelle Obama Orrex Jul 2024 #99

Agreed proud patriot Jul 2024 #13

pros and cons are good et tu Jul 2024 #16

Awesome suggestions! Emile Jul 2024 #17

I absolutely agree with you Takket Jul 2024 #19

Possibly a good comment.... usaf-vet Jul 2024 #20

Biden could campaign on expanding the SCOTUS to 13 justices 0rganism Jul 2024 #23

Why campaign on it? Why not do it now? He has immunity NOW. nt TBF Jul 2024 #49

True enough, and neutralize a few sitting "justices" in the process 0rganism Jul 2024 #56

That's not how immunity works... Zeitghost Jul 2024 #85

Because there is no such power. Immunity doesn't help TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #71

That's why JRB could campaign on expanding the court the "old fashioned" way 0rganism Jul 2024 #73

It would be a good thing to start investigating the Bribes coming into the SCOTUS. Immediately. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #98

This x 1000 orangecrush Jul 2024 #25

I like it. somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #27

Remember when the movie 'Civil War' came out recently and people were complaining kelly1mm Jul 2024 #30

We are ready there. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #50

He should announce an executive order to expand the Supreme Court. Liberty Belle Jul 2024 #32

It doesn't work that way Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #37

You're correct, but I don't think folks want to hear it onenote Jul 2024 #67

Official business. Go dark, Brandon! Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #41

Yes that would ring alarm bells & cause GOP to go 25A & btw wasn't he demented at the debate? bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #34

It's a coyote thing. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #46

Amen. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #35

In addition: SayItLoud Jul 2024 #36

Wow that sounds unbelievable, roll with that plan Sasquatchliving Jul 2024 #38

And it would be official business, so he's immune Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #39

Also point out 1973 is when sitting presidents got immunity from prosecution. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #42

If Biden hasn't had a brain trust devoted to this Supreme Court decision, he doesn't deserve to be President. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #43

Which executive order are you referring to? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #52

I wish I was part of the brain trust. If they really haven't thought of it, Trump most certainly will. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #58

You still haven't disclosed what specific executive order you are talking about Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #59

Disclosing any executive order would be the pervue of the president. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #62

Thanks for playing; parlor games are such a waste of time, aren't they? nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #63

So, if Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett and Federal Judge Cannon were all in a jury pool aka-chmeee Jul 2024 #64

is he over his cold yet? Skittles Jul 2024 #65

One problem though Diraven Jul 2024 #66

What is presidential immunity? The get out of jail free card Biden could use to assassinate Trump BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #68

"using the powers vested in him by the constitution and the Supreme Court, he will." FANTASTIC Escurumbele Jul 2024 #69

Hypothetical SEAL Team 6 political assassination resurfaces in Supreme Court presidential immunity dissent BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #70

He heard you malaise Jul 2024 #72

Sadly, his speech was woefully insufficient, and a missed opportunity. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #76

On the upside, Biden isn't revealing his hand and BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #90

Agree...that's what JRB does best....holds his card close, then plays them when these fools looked the other way PortTack Jul 2024 #93

Dark Brandon to the fore Blue Owl Jul 2024 #75

A question AncientOfDays Jul 2024 #79

They can be pardoned easily. BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #88

They would be, unless pardoned. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #89

Biden now has 2nd amendment rights to protect national security AlexSFCA Jul 2024 #94

You think Biden should specifically mention having the power to assassinate opponents robbob Jul 2024 #95

He should mention the context of the ruling Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #96

Here we are- trying to punch our way out of a MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #101

Tragic decision. Passages Jul 2024 #102

I would like to see this SARose Jul 2024 #103