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21. And Obama killed Social Security too!!!!

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How Obama outsmarts his critics -- on the left and on the right. [View all] pnwmom Jan 2012 OP

Oversize pant load. T S Justly Jan 2012 #1

but you have "nearly universal health care"... except for the tens of millions who don't nt msongs Jan 2012 #2

It hasn't fully taken effect yet. No one knows how many will fall through the cracks then. pnwmom Jan 2012 #9

True, Mass. ranks #1 for healthcare in the country. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #35

The numbers are wonderful for the 85% majority who won't get expensively sick eridani Jan 2012 #64

And you're STILL ignoring that most of the reforms aren't in effect yet? TheWraith Jan 2012 #106

Wrong. In MA very similar reforms have been in effect for several years eridani Jan 2012 #110

we were up to nearly 50 million uninsured Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #25

It isn't a matter of not being able to cover everyone. bornskeptic Jan 2012 #38

X 2 AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #5

HUH? DiverDave Jan 2012 #20

Dupe from Good Reads eridani Jan 2012 #3

I responded to your elitist aplogia in Good Reads. joshcryer Jan 2012 #4

It's the snotty beltway people and their apologists who are the elitists eridani Jan 2012 #6

Fortunately for you, you live in a state that actually GOTV in 2010. joshcryer Jan 2012 #7

The cuts can be stopped IF DEMS MAKE IT AN EFFING ISSUE! eridani Jan 2012 #8

I remember reading that the percent of African American voters was smaller in 2010 when Obama pnwmom Jan 2012 #10

The vote count proves that they sat home. joshcryer Jan 2012 #75

In 2006 we had Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy eridani Jan 2012 #79

It was worse than 2002. It was worse than 1998. joshcryer Jan 2012 #83

Excuse me, but Democrats demoralized the base by not aggressively going after- eridani Jan 2012 #87

What do you mean "going after tehadist lies"? You already showed that you agreed with those lies. joshcryer Jan 2012 #95

The Catfood Commission was presented to the general public as tasked with reducing eridani Jan 2012 #97

the average voter never knew anything about it;still doesn't. IMHO arely staircase Jan 2012 #102

The people in my precinct had not a clue about who was on the commission-- eridani Jan 2012 #108

And who appointed the Catfood Commission? MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #14

Post-partisan Obama who said he'd look at deficits? joshcryer Jan 2012 #74

Wonderful. Let's keep campaign promises even if they contradict what voters want eridani Jan 2012 #80

You gotta respect him for that. I personally saw his deficit hawking and war hawking... joshcryer Jan 2012 #82

I respect him for many things, but not that eridani Jan 2012 #86

Social Security is forbidden by law to add to the deficit. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #98

THANK YOU. woo me with science Jan 2012 #18

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #28

Jeez, didn't know Obama was going eradicate world poverty in 3 yrs. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #45

Ending world poverty = eridani Jan 2012 #61

Wow! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #112

Assimilating the language and accepting the conservative policy toolbox are not things to develop a TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #17

You nailed it. Republican talking points are now bipartisan talking points woo me with science Jan 2012 #19

Why not? Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #51

No, just some people posting in this thread n/t eridani Jan 2012 #62

Those "assimilating the language" are those who bought the Republican lies and... joshcryer Jan 2012 #73

Obama killed us in 2010 by appointing a deficit commission in the first place eridani Jan 2012 #81

Another campaign promise kept. What's interesting is that instead... joshcryer Jan 2012 #84

Why would the general public think that the commission didn't mean business? eridani Jan 2012 #88

Activists should've known better, a lot of them did, particularly in the cities. joshcryer Jan 2012 #90

GOTV does NOT work unless voters think that things will change in their lives eridani Jan 2012 #93

What in the world is it to appreciate about these commitees that Obama forces? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #104

Phrased differently, Obama's major accomplishments are: 1) he paid Wall Street trillions so leveymg Jan 2012 #11

You forgot something WonderGrunion Jan 2012 #15

That's all you got? You've gotta be kidding. leveymg Jan 2012 #24

We are almost at war with Iran, and he started 5 more wars? snooper2 Jan 2012 #39

Sane people don't laugh about wars, assassinations, sabotage and embargoes. leveymg Jan 2012 #55

No, laughing at your over-the-top comments...so 5 wars...name them please snooper2 Jan 2012 #56

Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya . . . leveymg Jan 2012 #58

mkay snooper2 Jan 2012 #60

A perfect example of the Dems' serious messaging problem eridani Jan 2012 #63

their opponents have messaging problems too, case in point arely staircase Jan 2012 #103

My neighbors understood well enough when I canvassed them in 2010 n/t eridani Jan 2012 #109

then i draw the conclusion that your neighbors keep up with current events much more than the arely staircase Jan 2012 #111

They don't actually. But I've developed enough trust as a PCO eridani Jan 2012 #114

very well done fascisthunter Jan 2012 #26

Excellent article.. DCBob Jan 2012 #12

Real unemployment is 15% and steady MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #13

And Obama killed Social Security too!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #21

No. But he called for it to be slashed. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #33

Obama never called for Social Security to be slashed. Why are you pretending? n/t pnwmom Jan 2012 #40

No? What do you think the "grand bargain" was all about? eridani Jan 2012 #65

Make NO mistakes, it WAS President Obama who offered cuts to Social Security. bvar22 Jan 2012 #67

Wait ... I know ... he's going to annouce his plan to gut SS at the State of the Union!!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #46

He suggested that it be cut at the SOTU MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #68

"suggested" ... that's your new position ...?????? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #70

Oh, he demanded cuts to Social Security, just not at the SOTU MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #89

and where is your repeated whine about the cat food commission? Sheepshank Jan 2012 #34

Pointing out an attack on Social Security is "whining"? MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #37

I see you don't get it eridani Jan 2012 #66

Yup, it isn't really attempted murder if you survive the attack, no matter how many attacks. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #107

Steady? It was near 19 a year or so ago. dmallind Jan 2012 #41

I read 21% 2 yrs ago, seems like it's declining, which means not holding steady. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #44

Yep - the facts sure seem that way. nt dmallind Jan 2012 #78

Check the U6 number for details. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #69

I did - unlike the person I responded to apparently. dmallind Jan 2012 #77

Let me state that Obama is in sad shape when he has to have a conservative like Sullivan MadHound Jan 2012 #16

How dare Obama let Sullivan publish a positive critique!!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #22

+1 paulk Jan 2012 #94

Hey there, long time no see MadHound Jan 2012 #96

well, despite paulk Jan 2012 #105

K&R... SidDithers Jan 2012 #23

Der sphincter. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #49

I have been using the phrase "he keeps his powder dry" Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #27

+100 JoePhilly Jan 2012 #47

"Show don't tell" doesn't really work for an administration EFerrari Jan 2012 #52

We're all aware that Andrew Sullivan is a Rightwinger/Neocon, yes? Romulox Jan 2012 #29

Sullivan says Obama's economic policies are "right of center" PA Democrat Jan 2012 #43

"A caveat: I write this as an unabashed supporter of Obama from early 2007 on. " quinnox Jan 2012 #30

Ah, the old "chessmaster" line is making a comeback just in time for the election. hughee99 Jan 2012 #31

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #32

I like how this article exposes the left's anti-Obama crowd to things like logic, reasoning and fact FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #36

Most of them aren't worth reading though. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #48

It's pretty appalling when issues that are important to the daily life of working people EFerrari Jan 2012 #53

It's pretty appalling that so-called Progressives would be knocking the HUGE progress this President FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #57

Your response begs the question of "huge progress". Or that Obama is in any way progressive. EFerrari Jan 2012 #59

Your response begs the question who are you comparing his progressivism to? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #76

Thank You for The Centrist Manifesto. bvar22 Jan 2012 #42

Centrism, the midpoint between the right wing and the other right wing. EFerrari Jan 2012 #54

+1 slay Jan 2012 #101

K to the R BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #50

How times have changed. bvar22 Jan 2012 #71

Excellent post slay Jan 2012 #99

K&R dammit Number23 Jan 2012 #72

He outsmarts his constituents... sendero Jan 2012 #85

I guess in the long view hfojvt Jan 2012 #91

yup Skittles Jan 2012 #92

You know it - that 57 dimensional chess he's playing is finally going to pay off slay Jan 2012 #100

thanks for the positive Obama post. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #113