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Showing Original Post only (View all)Eugene Robinson: If Biden's poll numbers head south, Schumer, Pelosi and Clyburn need to intervene [View all]
Bidens 2024 survival requires a lot more than hope
It is irresponsible for leading Democrats and the Biden campaign to blithely pretend last Thursdays presidential debate never happened. We saw what we saw and heard what we heard. Magical thinking does not win elections.
Biden was alarmingly frail and struggled to complete his thoughts, let alone his sentences. And Trump confirmed every fear about what giving him another four years in the White House would mean for the nation and the world.
Before the debate, polls showed the race essentially tied, with Trump narrowly leading in some decisive swing states. If Biden now falls significantly behind, the party must consider alternative candidates.
The Biden campaigns response to the debacle has been unconvincing. Bidens forceful speech at a rally Friday was good, but, of course, there is a difference between the thrust-and-parry of a debate and scripted remarks. It takes time and repetition to erase the kind of impression Biden made at the debate. One statement from the Biden campaign described those questioning whether Biden should stay in the race as the bedwetting brigade. Ive never had patience for Democrats looking for reasons to freak out. Ive always believed that voters, in the end, would find Bidens diminished vigor and record of accomplishment preferable to Trumps energetic narcissism and record of failure. They still might. But I wasnt counting on a spectacle like that debate.
Biden is determined to stay in the race, and reportedly he has the full backing of his family and inner circle. I can understand why the president might bristle at calls to step aside from a bunch of know-it-all columnists and commentators who have never run a campaign for student council. But there are voices he respects. It is understandable that veteran Democratic warriors such as Reps. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and James E. Clyburn (S.C.), as well as Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), would repeat the Biden campaigns talking points right now. But they cannot unsee how feeble and unsteady Biden was Thursday night. They owe it to their party and their country to watch the polling trends with cold eyes. And if Bidens numbers head south, they need to organize an intervention.
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The Biden campaigns response to the debacle has been unconvincing. Bidens forceful speech at a rally Friday was good, but, of course, there is a difference between the thrust-and-parry of a debate and scripted remarks. It takes time and repetition to erase the kind of impression Biden made at the debate. One statement from the Biden campaign described those questioning whether Biden should stay in the race as the bedwetting brigade. Ive never had patience for Democrats looking for reasons to freak out. Ive always believed that voters, in the end, would find Bidens diminished vigor and record of accomplishment preferable to Trumps energetic narcissism and record of failure. They still might. But I wasnt counting on a spectacle like that debate.
Biden is determined to stay in the race, and reportedly he has the full backing of his family and inner circle. I can understand why the president might bristle at calls to step aside from a bunch of know-it-all columnists and commentators who have never run a campaign for student council. But there are voices he respects. It is understandable that veteran Democratic warriors such as Reps. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and James E. Clyburn (S.C.), as well as Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), would repeat the Biden campaigns talking points right now. But they cannot unsee how feeble and unsteady Biden was Thursday night. They owe it to their party and their country to watch the polling trends with cold eyes. And if Bidens numbers head south, they need to organize an intervention.
More at https://wapo.st/4eNbLEt
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Eugene Robinson: If Biden's poll numbers head south, Schumer, Pelosi and Clyburn need to intervene [View all]
BeyondGeography
Jul 2024
OP
It's punditry shit and polls don't mean anything right now. It is all SHIT. Biden is the nominee!
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#13
It doesn't matter. If that is the perception. While I believe today's polling has major flaws, I do believe that they
JohnSJ
Jul 2024
#94
Exactly right. If Biden steps down, the expectation is that he would give the nod to Harris to replace him.
Lonestarblue
Jul 2024
#4
Ain't gonna happen. Harris, Whitmer, and Newsom are all 100% behind Biden as we all should be.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#34
There is a constitutional issue with VP Harris and Governor Newsom being on a ticket
kelly1mm
Jul 2024
#180
It is unhelpful punditry shit based on nonsense over one debate. It is shit and he should know better.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#33
And we are not alone in thinking this is not helpful and .... Biden is our candidate. Like it or not.
LakeArenal
Jul 2024
#122
AOC was a far left progressive who wanted "war on the Democratic Establishment."
LakeArenal
Jul 2024
#91
Blah blah blah blame "feeble unsteady cold eyes bad bad bad blah blah blah" Democrats.
betsuni
Jul 2024
#3
It is punditry shit. Enough!!!!!!!!!!!! Biden, and ONLY Biden, is the nominee. ONE FUCKING DEBATE means NOTHING!
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#8
Sorry but bed wetting and pants shitting over one fucking debate with no predictive value doesn't convince me.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#12
And some people need to learn how presidential elections actually work and to stop bed-wetting over one debate.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#17
I think some here are misunderstanding who this comment is aimed at,
MarineCombatEngineer
Jul 2024
#87
Odd how the term "bedwetting" is coming up over and over meant to shame anyone with any doubts or questions.
Peregrine Took
Jul 2024
#133
It doesn't mean diddly shit and his logic shows he doesn't know shit about presidential elections. Debates and polls
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#11
I can accept in wrong. But I have maintained a civil discourse and haven't insulted anyone. Thanks.
LakeArenal
Jul 2024
#120
He's a good writer, but I've noticed that he seem to struggle with his thoughts on Morning Joe.
ritz719
Jul 2024
#164
It's amazing, it a sad way, how judgmental so many DUers are about anyone who suggests Biden drop out
Silent3
Jul 2024
#148
SHAME ON YOU ROBINSON! Stop the fucking STUPID bed-wetting over this ONE debate with ZERO impact on the election.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#9
Yup because that's where he needs to go on this. ONE debate and polls don't mean diddly shit in presidential elections.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#20
Where the fuck is Robinson's call for the convicted felon, rapist, and pathological liar to drop out?
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#19
Oh stop it. He's a Democrat and concerned, like we all are. His writing is in good faith. Come on.
themaguffin
Jul 2024
#21
No we are NOT "all concerned". He is a pundit pushing a SHIT narrative based on bed-wetting over one debate. It is SHIT.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#32
What "issue" do you want to "resolve"? Round and round the mulberry bush and down the rabbit hole is what it is.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#97
It seems you are lecturing others on their tone, word choice, etc. It seems rather pompous and patronizing. This is an
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#107
The fact that no one in Biden's family seems concerned about his appearance and inability to
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#46
No--if there is an acute but resolvable medical reason for his "off night" or even a chronic issue
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#50
I would never suggest that. In fact, I'm not sure they're being transparent with us.
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#55
Nope. Lack of transparency about something that occurred last week is not lying
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#61
Have no idea if he was diagnosed with anything recently. Have no idea if his family
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#144
Why the hell would he resign as president, talk about a foolish move. Do you understand that would leave
Bev54
Jul 2024
#152
Do you not understand saying Biden isn't fit to run, that will be the next logical question?
Self Esteem
Jul 2024
#155
So far, we've eaten everyone who speaks about this. I hope we don't shun Robinson, he's one of the best.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#51
And if they don't? I want all of these well meaning idiots taking a break from making public comments
Freethinker65
Jul 2024
#58
In Eugene's defense, he isn't calling for Biden's immediate withdrawl, as opposed to Carville
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2024
#72
I hear that... the fear that media types are hyping themselves into is not good for them
Peacetrain
Jul 2024
#84
Get a grip. Joe Biden has this. You afraid of one little blip at a dog and pony show vs the leadership ...
marble falls
Jul 2024
#149
Then the only clear choice: hold fast to Biden/Harris. That will go a long way to giving you your future. Stand fast ...
marble falls
Jul 2024
#168
Life holds threats real and unreal. At least triage them and give them the energy to their importance to you right now .
marble falls
Jul 2024
#171
The purity tests and parsing of all things a Democratic candidate must achieve is why we are where we are.
NoMoreRepugs
Jul 2024
#101
And calling for Pres. Biden, out nominee, to withdraw is best for the country how?
MarineCombatEngineer
Jul 2024
#110
I think I will and tell them what an asshole he is for calling on Pres. Biden to withdraw. nt
MarineCombatEngineer
Jul 2024
#121
Pelosi: Biden's mental fitness is 'legitimate question,' recommends interviews with 'serious journalists'
Passages
Jul 2024
#134
James Carville calls on Democratic party to 'deliver change' and replace Biden
Passages
Jul 2024
#141