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183. I was really concerned...

Wed Jul 3, 2024, 05:42 PM

Jul 2024

…about Biden from the first words out of his mouth at the debate. His voice was exceedingly weak and it sounded as though he hadn't had a drink of water in a month.

Honestly, I. blame his advisors for letting him go on in that condition.

I only listened to the debate after the first few exchanges. It was so awful I couldn't continue watching.

I was so disappointed because I had expected Biden to hit it out of the park and destroy the lying scumbag.

It is really not easy to get past how awful it was.

We all know how much better than Trump President Biden is. It's too bad he wasn't able to demonstrate that at the debate.

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Eugene Robinson: If Biden's poll numbers head south, Schumer, Pelosi and Clyburn need to intervene [View all] BeyondGeography Jul 2024 OP

Thanks for posting BG. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #1

It's punditry shit and polls don't mean anything right now. It is all SHIT. Biden is the nominee! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #13

For your information, I made an OP saying Biden would be the nominee. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #23

It doesn't matter. If that is the perception. While I believe today's polling has major flaws, I do believe that they JohnSJ Jul 2024 #94

I expected better from Eugene Robinson. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #2

Exactly right. If Biden steps down, the expectation is that he would give the nod to Harris to replace him. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #4

Ain't gonna happen. Harris, Whitmer, and Newsom are all 100% behind Biden as we all should be. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #34

There is a constitutional issue with VP Harris and Governor Newsom being on a ticket kelly1mm Jul 2024 #180

Robinson is discussing the issue in good faith. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #26

It is unhelpful punditry shit based on nonsense over one debate. It is shit and he should know better. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #33

You are doing better. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #90

What?? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #74

Highly respected liberals have been discussing a critical issue. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #92

Who said they didn't? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #129

We must have unity or we are going to lose our democracy. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #131

Just because someone doesn't agree doesn't mean they aren't in good faith. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #88

He is not alone. Respected liberals are asking questions. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #95

And we are not alone in thinking this is not helpful and .... Biden is our candidate. Like it or not. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #122

Robinson, Whitehouse, and Dingell can say what they want in private, Bayard Jul 2024 #104

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #132

Robinson is the media. (nt) ARandomPerson Jul 2024 #166

Far-left progressives are already holding their noses for Biden Mad_Machine76 Jul 2024 #43

I'm a far left voter in favor of Harris. GPV Jul 2024 #56

Progressives supportive of Harris Mad_Machine76 Jul 2024 #125

AOC was a far left progressive who wanted "war on the Democratic Establishment." LakeArenal Jul 2024 #91

Wasn't referring specifically to her Mad_Machine76 Jul 2024 #126

I'm with you wryter2000 Jul 2024 #65

Absolutely correct. I am done with these self-destructive calls against Biden. wnylib Jul 2024 #81

Ditto. elleng Jul 2024 #177

Blah blah blah blame "feeble unsteady cold eyes bad bad bad blah blah blah" Democrats. betsuni Jul 2024 #3

Calling other Dems names will not achieve your goal. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #27

Supporting and defending anyone who bashes Biden kcr Jul 2024 #79

AGREE. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #78

So he thinks America would rather have a robust rapist, over an aging good man? Walleye Jul 2024 #5

Eugene is one of the most respected political commentators in the country. honest.abe Jul 2024 #6

It is punditry shit. Enough!!!!!!!!!!!! Biden, and ONLY Biden, is the nominee. ONE FUCKING DEBATE means NOTHING! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #8

Sorry ten exclamation points doesn't convince me. honest.abe Jul 2024 #10

Sorry but bed wetting and pants shitting over one fucking debate with no predictive value doesn't convince me. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #12

You need a timeout. honest.abe Jul 2024 #14

And some people need to learn how presidential elections actually work and to stop bed-wetting over one debate. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #17

+1 demmiblue Jul 2024 #22

Yep. Spot on. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #73

I think some here are misunderstanding who this comment is aimed at, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #87

Odd how the term "bedwetting" is coming up over and over meant to shame anyone with any doubts or questions. Peregrine Took Jul 2024 #133

Maybe people get paid per exclamation point. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #66

. honest.abe Jul 2024 #71

It doesn't mean diddly shit and his logic shows he doesn't know shit about presidential elections. Debates and polls Deek1935 Jul 2024 #11

I trust his judgement much more than some newbie anonymous DU poster. honest.abe Jul 2024 #16

But they're so articulate. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #75

Wasn't Eug a "liberal" on Fux Youz who used to cave to Fux every time? LakeArenal Jul 2024 #83

Of course not. Don't be fucking silly. He's been with WaPo for ages. thebigidea Jul 2024 #93

I can accept in wrong. But I have maintained a civil discourse and haven't insulted anyone. Thanks. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #120

He's a good writer, but I've noticed that he seem to struggle with his thoughts on Morning Joe. ritz719 Jul 2024 #164

honest abe yes Eugene Robinson is a respected, thoughtful person. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #28

We do not. He is helping Trump period...screw him. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #157

We have no idea what is going on right now. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #159

I never voted for Eugene Robinson either. Emile Jul 2024 #173

And that is why he's talking out is *ss. Butterflylady Jul 2024 #76

It's amazing, it a sad way, how judgmental so many DUers are about anyone who suggests Biden drop out Silent3 Jul 2024 #148

We need a united front. AllyCat Jul 2024 #153

You're not going to create a united front using anger and vitriol Silent3 Jul 2024 #154

🙄 AllyCat Jul 2024 #160

Yes, and everyone who doesn't see it your way... Silent3 Jul 2024 #161

I don't say that. Have a nice day. AllyCat Jul 2024 #162

You may not say that in so many words. But a lot of DU reactions... Silent3 Jul 2024 #163

I was really concerned... TicketyBoo Jul 2024 #183

Please, enough of this punditry SHIT. Biden is the nominee, PERIOD!!!!!!!!! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #7

Exactly! FalloutShelter Jul 2024 #31

Cats following a laser pointer. Bravo! rzemanfl Jul 2024 #182

LOL right? FalloutShelter Jul 2024 #188

SHAME ON YOU ROBINSON! Stop the fucking STUPID bed-wetting over this ONE debate with ZERO impact on the election. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #9

Under the bus goes Eugene. nt LexVegas Jul 2024 #15

Yup because that's where he needs to go on this. ONE debate and polls don't mean diddly shit in presidential elections. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #20

Ironic that Pelosi and Clyburn are both 82 Deminpenn Jul 2024 #18

Where the fuck is Robinson's call for the convicted felon, rapist, and pathological liar to drop out? Deek1935 Jul 2024 #19

Oh stop it. He's a Democrat and concerned, like we all are. His writing is in good faith. Come on. themaguffin Jul 2024 #21

I am glad he is back, he took a hiatus after his wife died. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #25

He should return to that hiatus. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #48

Agreed. returnee Jul 2024 #30

No we are NOT "all concerned". He is a pundit pushing a SHIT narrative based on bed-wetting over one debate. It is SHIT. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #32

You're not concerned about the election? Good for you. themaguffin Jul 2024 #35

If you watched the debate... TicketyBoo Jul 2024 #187

Deek1935. This strategy is counter productive. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #24

My god, thank you for saying it! Music Man Jul 2024 #40

What "issue" do you want to "resolve"? Round and round the mulberry bush and down the rabbit hole is what it is. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #97

By God you are making progress. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #100

It seems you are lecturing others on their tone, word choice, etc. It seems rather pompous and patronizing. This is an Deek1935 Jul 2024 #107

That poor mulberry bush is getting a workout today. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #111

I admit I did lecture you on exclamation point usage. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #130

Nauseating. edisdead Jul 2024 #109

The conversation IS the problem edisdead Jul 2024 #108

Robinson is a MSNBC hack. DemGoodBoy Jul 2024 #36

This is the second totally clueless post from you. Music Man Jul 2024 #42

A newbie with 3 posts. Hmmm... honest.abe Jul 2024 #44

Sometimes the "newbies" know a shit load more that the "oldies". Deek1935 Jul 2024 #127

This one sure doesn't. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #139

Weren't you a "newbie" at one time also? MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #128

I never made absurd insulting comments like this person right off the bat. honest.abe Jul 2024 #140

Eugene Robinson was never syndicated to Russia or RedState.... haha DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #70

Yes, it's Someone trying too hard IMO. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #77

Wouldn't most liberals know who Eugene Robinson is? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #102

Yes. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #136

If I were going to assume a fake persona I would at least do some homework. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #137

YES Skittles Jul 2024 #178

Training standards have really slipped. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #181

"Emehrgancy! Everybody to get from street!" John1956PA Jul 2024 #185

That is one of my favorite movies. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #186

HMMM DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #47

Robinson is a very well-known columnist. He's been writing for years, Ocelot II Jul 2024 #138

um, you've never heard of Eugene Robinson? Skittles Jul 2024 #176

If you haven't heard of Gene Robinson TicketyBoo Jul 2024 #184

The problem with this strategy is the other canadates DemocracyWorks Jul 2024 #37

They were 1 point behind Biden. That's not that much and that may change. Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #45

I'm disappointed in Eugene Robinson. piddyprints Jul 2024 #38

these people need to stop gambling our votes away bigtree Jul 2024 #39

Exactly. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #82

It's irresponsible to ignore Trump sociopathy suegeo Jul 2024 #41

There are so many things wrong about and wrong with Donald Trump, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #68

The fact that no one in Biden's family seems concerned about his appearance and inability to Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #46

Do you think Biden should resign as president? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #49

No--if there is an acute but resolvable medical reason for his "off night" or even a chronic issue Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #50

Are you suggesting Biden's administration covers up his medical reports? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #53

I would never suggest that. In fact, I'm not sure they're being transparent with us. Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #55

Okay. So, you think the White House is lying about Biden's health. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #60

Nope. Lack of transparency about something that occurred last week is not lying Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #61

They did. He had a comd. edisdead Jul 2024 #113

So you're saying he was maybe just recently diagnosed with Parkinson's? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #143

Have no idea if he was diagnosed with anything recently. Have no idea if his family Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #144

And yet, you're speculating. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #146

Why the hell would he resign as president, talk about a foolish move. Do you understand that would leave Bev54 Jul 2024 #152

Do you not understand saying Biden isn't fit to run, that will be the next logical question? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #155

It is already a question out there and it is ridiculous to even contemplate. Bev54 Jul 2024 #156

And yet people are. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #158

The scan reports he had a cold. edisdead Jul 2024 #112

He didn't look right to me. He didn't look right to a LOT of people. Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #118

So far, we've eaten everyone who speaks about this. I hope we don't shun Robinson, he's one of the best. Silent Type Jul 2024 #51

So... edisdead Jul 2024 #114

Question away. Eat or bash, not so much. Silent Type Jul 2024 #117

One word Botany Jul 2024 #52

... Wednesdays Jul 2024 #54

In general, I respect Eugene Robinson's commentary, but I call BS in this. iluvtennis Jul 2024 #57

And if they don't? I want all of these well meaning idiots taking a break from making public comments Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #58

I hate everyone pushing for this fascist fucking state. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #59

FU Eugene. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2024 #62

Yep. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #99

Robinson's words are like a cold glass of water in the face. JohnnyRingo Jul 2024 #63

Nate Silver Passages Jul 2024 #64

oh well, fair-weather Democrats DoBW Jul 2024 #67

Ugh. Thanks for posting it, though. femmedem Jul 2024 #86

Exactly, and thank you. That is the point, the facts. Passages Jul 2024 #89

I am going to cut Eugene some slack here and I will tell you why Peacetrain Jul 2024 #69

In Eugene's defense, he isn't calling for Biden's immediate withdrawl, as opposed to Carville DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #72

I hear that... the fear that media types are hyping themselves into is not good for them Peacetrain Jul 2024 #84

I'm scared n/t XiJang Jul 2024 #80

Get a grip. Joe Biden has this. You afraid of one little blip at a dog and pony show vs the leadership ... marble falls Jul 2024 #149

I'm 19 and first time voting. I cannot bear Trump as president. Please! n/t XiJang Jul 2024 #165

Then the only clear choice: hold fast to Biden/Harris. That will go a long way to giving you your future. Stand fast ... marble falls Jul 2024 #168

But I'm terrified. I have manic episodes and depressives XiJang Jul 2024 #170

Life holds threats real and unreal. At least triage them and give them the energy to their importance to you right now . marble falls Jul 2024 #171

Not helping n/t XiJang Jul 2024 #175

Huge fan of Robinson JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #85

I used to be a Robinson fan. Paladin Jul 2024 #96

The MAGAts MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #98

The purity tests and parsing of all things a Democratic candidate must achieve is why we are where we are. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #101

Lloyd Doggett calls for President Biden to withdraw Passages Jul 2024 #103

This is starting to snowball. honest.abe Jul 2024 #105

Yes. Passages Jul 2024 #106

And calling for Pres. Biden, out nominee, to withdraw is best for the country how? MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #110

He said why in his statement. Passages Jul 2024 #115

I don't give a good GD why he said it, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #116

Call his office. Passages Jul 2024 #119

I think I will and tell them what an asshole he is for calling on Pres. Biden to withdraw. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #121

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #123

Thank you JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #145

Clyburn. Passages Jul 2024 #124

He's the one who got her the VP job to begin with, so not surprising. Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #135

Pelosi: Biden's mental fitness is 'legitimate question,' recommends interviews with 'serious journalists' Passages Jul 2024 #134

James Carville calls on Democratic party to 'deliver change' and replace Biden Passages Jul 2024 #141

As Biden digs in, some top Democrats want him out of the race this week Passages Jul 2024 #142

🎼So here's to you Mr. Robinson, there's much oasis Jul 2024 #147

Thanks for the earworm! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #150

Eugene Robinson needs to give it a rest dlk Jul 2024 #151

Just lost my respect for Eugene flamingdem Jul 2024 #167

They should have intervened a year ago Azathoth Jul 2024 #169

Yeah, thanks. Get back to me when they actually -do- go down. Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 #172

Another senior House Democrat put it this way of Biden: Passages Jul 2024 #174

Why are we helping the Republicans YessirAtsaFact Jul 2024 #179

"We're ridin' with Biden." LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #189