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WCLinolVir

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126. WOW, Well I guess you painted yourself out of a corner HUH?

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:15 AM

Dec 2012

WTF??? "I'm a lawyer, we have to have our rules", just so few ethics. Every lawyer I've ever met has always tried to get away with screwing people over. Because you have to hire a lawyer to fight them, and they know it.
You must be so proud of yourself, quite the seducer , huh? Good liar, great manipulator, what a catch. What a perfect description of pathology. You don't have an accurate self-image do you? Cause to me you look like a fuc**ng creep. I don't really think there is that much ambiguity as you fantasize about. And I sure hope you don't have children to raise. Is it more about general respect? No it's about a clear boundary of what and when sexual behaviour is appropriate. Your fantasy that haranguing someone into sex is ok is perp talk.

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All this talk about rape is making me... [View all] Whiskeytide Nov 2012 OP

Wordiest rape apology OP evah! n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #1

I said I was a lawyer... Whiskeytide Nov 2012 #3

what kind of client did you defend? Whisp Nov 2012 #7

Was? morningfog Nov 2012 #111

You said a lot of things. Iggo Dec 2012 #165

Yep. This is getting beyond bizarre. n/t demmiblue Nov 2012 #12

It is amazing how much time and energy is devoted to it. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #23

+1000. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #85

just so you are aware, I know what you are doing. Whisp Nov 2012 #2

What is it about 400-500 post users coming out of the wood-work all of a sudden? LAGC Nov 2012 #5

It's an attempt to delegitimize the issue... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #8

+1 redqueen Nov 2012 #24

+2 Squinch Nov 2012 #33

You bet it is. Talk about projection. WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #127

I thought it was creepy... CoffeeCat Dec 2012 #156

We're coming up on winter break. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #15

Misogynist trolls working together to try to weaken women's progress kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #32

yup. and the fucker has so little respect for women, women that have been raped, he seabeyond Nov 2012 #34

It was a weird OP, to say the least! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #77

a man feeling belittled so many men and women standing up for rape victims. he is doing his jab seabeyond Nov 2012 #78

Any form of coercion crosses the line YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #4

I like your use of the term coercion... Whiskeytide Nov 2012 #6

But he did raise one issue that I've wondered about, too. pnwmom Dec 2012 #211

Well. FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #9

That was good arely staircase Nov 2012 #20

Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a thoughtful, LisaLynne Nov 2012 #49

Thank you for this excellent and thorough response! n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #83

That was great. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #125

Great comments. lunatica Dec 2012 #185

ugh. another clueless man. cali Nov 2012 #10

He's not clueless. He's wilfully obtuse, and a raging sexist pig IMHO. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #35

he is smeering the offensiveness of rape in victims face. this person needs to delete or seabeyond Nov 2012 #37

I'd bet serious money that they are sockpuppets of the same RL person, and that that person kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #45

they are probably pissed off men because some sexist got TOS. or a sock or whatever seabeyond Nov 2012 #54

I thought the same. Squinch Nov 2012 #55

You would lose the bet on all counts. Whiskeytide Nov 2012 #90

well, golly gee, been talking about education for a good 24 hours without it sounding like seabeyond Nov 2012 #95

Rape apologists are always mysogynists. By definition. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #190

He goes on at length to "validate" a "grey area". Perp talk. WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #132

Sounds exactly like the NAMBLA crowd trying to justify pedophilia. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #191

OK, let me demolish some of your points DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #11

Japan does not have " one of the LOWEST sufrommich Nov 2012 #19

THANK YOU! nt redqueen Nov 2012 #30

Ummm, yes it does. Statistics prove it. Bonobo Dec 2012 #232

Enough with this idea that boys need to be told rape is wrong Dokkie Dec 2012 #134

The ONLY acceptable sex is adult consensual sex. Period. lunatica Nov 2012 #13

I think that *anyone* who tries to if-and-or-but your statement is either LanternWaste Nov 2012 #21

I agree with that as a gold standard. Whiskeytide Nov 2012 #88

seriously? you have kids. you have yet to find a way to clealy teach you children the proper seabeyond Nov 2012 #99

that being said, I am ASTONISHED that so many "adults" cannot decipher such simple moral issues. alp227 Nov 2012 #101

What is the difference between... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #27

The difference is clear. One changes one's OWN mind... redqueen Nov 2012 #38

How come you didn't weigh in on my OP? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #50

if rape was more common among men than it already was, we would not have these roguevalley Dec 2012 #200

Seriously. Jesus fuck. No means no and if you have to ask, then ASK. Shibby2002 Jan 2013 #235

Cheap, disingenuous argument Shibby2002 Jan 2013 #234

Lol.....yep. cliffordu Nov 2012 #86

Is that different than coercion? cliffordu Nov 2012 #93

what about it? nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #96

Fucking sick. Sick and idiotic. redqueen Nov 2012 #103

So I guess Zombie Woof is all out of the question, then...... cliffordu Dec 2012 #154

With that definition you've made many more women rapists mathematic Dec 2012 #155

What a surprise to see you stating this obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #44

I'm sorry... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #48

Common sense and its application in any given situation, I would think. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #64

Common sense isn't as common as I would like... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #68

It's never failed me in these types of situations. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #84

They imply... I infer... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #94

One *does not* equal the other. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #160

It can't be "codified into law" necessarily. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #158

When a girl gives into a petulant boy because he has worn her down lunatica Dec 2012 #186

Where does prostitution fit into this? dkf Dec 2012 #229

You answer that question for yourself lunatica Dec 2012 #230

I agree with your statement. There is no wiggle room here to me. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #60

And if both were conscious but drunk, and not capable of giving consent, pnwmom Dec 2012 #212

Does the word consensual confuse you? lunatica Dec 2012 #223

Yes, I guess it does. I've told my sons that if a woman is drunk, she can't give consent. Period. pnwmom Dec 2012 #224

So... it's not rape if you coerced her by being utterly and insanely relentless? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #14

Our culture is deeply sick when it comes to sex/power/rape, IMO. closeupready Nov 2012 #16

And imagine if gay, when young someone tried to drag me out of a bar once. I'm not RKP5637 Nov 2012 #79

I can indeed imagine, though it never happened to me. closeupready Dec 2012 #135

If a gay man asks you for sex, and you say no...then what? (nt) The Straight Story Nov 2012 #17

Then he (the gay man) should probably stop asking. Same goes for heterosexuals. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #161

The rape fantasy. lightcameron Nov 2012 #18

People also read about war and cannibalism and murder, but seldom aspire to do it. nolabear Nov 2012 #39

Right, because it's fantasy. LisaLynne Nov 2012 #52

Women do not fantasize about getting raped -- ever obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #120

Um, yes, some do. LisaLynne Dec 2012 #124

Um no, they don't obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #128

Did you look at the links? nt LisaLynne Dec 2012 #131

Uh, is it really rape if you are in control of the fantasy? WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #129

Um that was my point. nt. LisaLynne Dec 2012 #130

but, that is really a very good point and interesting. i like how obama did that. seabeyond Dec 2012 #133

Sorry -- misread your post! LisaLynne Dec 2012 #137

yes. but this is thinking outside the box. seabeyond Dec 2012 #138

Yes, me too LisaLynne Dec 2012 #140

excellent. a fun part of the thread seabeyond Dec 2012 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2012 #179

Do people at a Murder Mystery Party want to be murdered? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #167

except only when and where they want to... AND how. seabeyond Dec 2012 #170

I thought that was an interesing comment obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #173

yup. and it also put a different slant on the bdsm seabeyond Dec 2012 #174

right! obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #175

I used to date a girl that was into it. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #213

I suspect your experience is the norm obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #219

well. If women want to be raped as so many imply, then men must want to as well. roguevalley Dec 2012 #201

sorry...to say. some do. alphafemale Dec 2012 #164

No, they do not, no matter how many posters say they do obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #168

You call taken a term alphafemale Dec 2012 #171

That obviously isn't my term obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #172

that would have been in the 70's and 80's known as the bodice ripper. but, then, if you look at the seabeyond Dec 2012 #169

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: L0oniX Nov 2012 #61

At the thrift store I work at I would say about half of the romance novels we have... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #147

This is some sick shit. redqueen Nov 2012 #22

what is your intent for excusing, validating, justifying rape? nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #25

please be man enough to self delete your post. from the title on, it is offensive. seabeyond Nov 2012 #26

Can you believe this shit is still being spewed forth? Rex Nov 2012 #29

fuckin start, all this talk about rape..... that is fuckin sick. and clear what a perverts seabeyond Nov 2012 #31

This is the first I've seen people try and defend Rex Nov 2012 #40

Oh? redqueen Nov 2012 #43

There isn't anything in this OP We haven't seen on DU before bettyellen Nov 2012 #74

the title is the creep all of any title i have seen. says a hell of a lot about the poster, seabeyond Nov 2012 #76

Interesting. The title doesn't bother me but I do think bettyellen Nov 2012 #82

true that seabeyond Nov 2012 #87

I'm hugely offended that jurors are leaving these vile posts TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #148

I'm sorry I can't pretend there was anything new or special in that post bettyellen Dec 2012 #150

on another post someone made some remark about taking back this shit and making roguevalley Dec 2012 #202

bigotry in all forms is a TOS violation TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #144

I read that Skinner was alerted on the rapist confession and let it stand. bettyellen Dec 2012 #153

The post I am referring to is the one you decided not to read. Rex Dec 2012 #188

Yep. My thoughts exactly. Squinch Nov 2012 #41

so fuckin in your face, if you are a rape victim, the pig slaps you up across the head seabeyond Nov 2012 #42

Worse than smacking you across the head, he is saying, "was it really rape?" Squinch Nov 2012 #51

cowards. all of them. and so much to play with the OP to offend all. but, wtf.... nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #58

men don't have to face this threat all the time. They don't have to think about their roguevalley Dec 2012 #203

Agreed! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #62

It is beyond mercuryblues Nov 2012 #46

and lets pity their sons. because people with these attitudes have a fucked up life. and that is seabeyond Nov 2012 #67

Actually mercuryblues Nov 2012 #69

yup. image these men as parents that cannot tell the difference between rape, and not rape. sad seabeyond Nov 2012 #70

There is so much failsauce in this OP. that I won't be Rex Nov 2012 #28

No, they don't. LisaLynne Nov 2012 #53

Serious question, and I want a serious answer. What if it was happening to you? nolabear Nov 2012 #36

Great questions Tsiyu Nov 2012 #47

Special Snowflakes indeed Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #59

Thanks Tree-Hugger Tsiyu Nov 2012 #63

Lack of consent is not consent. Coercion to force sex is rape. Rape is fucking rape. STOP. rDigital Nov 2012 #56

Tell you what, why don't you ask Dan Savage what he would thinks graham4anything Nov 2012 #57

Looks like a hit and run poster. What exactly is "all this talk about rape".... boston bean Nov 2012 #65

Is this the only way you can get any DevonRex Nov 2012 #66

well played. FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #81

Thank you. I think it was a well-deserved volley. Nt DevonRex Nov 2012 #102

What a dipshit! UtahLib Dec 2012 #146

Yup. DevonRex Dec 2012 #149

In court, in support of child victims, I've heard defense attorneys raise some of these points. JohnnyLib2 Nov 2012 #71

Gack. Solly Mack Nov 2012 #72

yup. cowards that dont know rape. seems like the picture was right on. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #73

Evidently, more than just 14, 15, 16 and 17 year old children are confused NoGOPZone Nov 2012 #75

Trashing. I don't need to read yet another post on this subject. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #80

all the men and OP that dont get rape. here, read. "Meet the Predators" seabeyond Nov 2012 #89

That's a creepy post. You've just described MineralMan Nov 2012 #91

This is basically necrophilia porn. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #92

i am so glad that people are feeling the same thing from the post that i was. seabeyond Nov 2012 #97

It's over their heads. RegieRocker Nov 2012 #98

ahhh, just us silly women being all emotional. uh hu. thanks guy for telling us silly women seabeyond Nov 2012 #100

No, she DOESN'T have to say jack SHIT. redqueen Nov 2012 #104

Give RegieRocker a break. He doesn't even understand climate change. morningfog Nov 2012 #109

Oh... redqueen Nov 2012 #112

lol obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #122

I understand fully well RegieRocker Dec 2012 #178

That doesn't sound agnostic at all. morningfog Dec 2012 #189

Not proven either way is an RegieRocker Dec 2012 #192

Regie booby, I live in alaska. You are wrong. Truly, get over yourself. roguevalley Dec 2012 #204

LOL you really don't remember RegieRocker Dec 2012 #217

what a sad pile of piffle honey. truly. you are part of the mind roguevalley Dec 2012 #221

When in doubt, *ask*! Seriously! It doesn't harm anyone! nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #163

Yea right RegieRocker Dec 2012 #193

Doesn't have to be in so many words. "Is this okay?" probably suffices. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #195

Oh no I am not the one RegieRocker Dec 2012 #198

At least your heart's seemingly in the right place. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #199

It goes something like this... Shibby2002 Jan 2013 #236

That is total B.S. RegieRocker Dec 2012 #177

If one person says "stop" and the other person doesn't stop MadrasT Dec 2012 #194

The law RegieRocker Dec 2012 #197

I am assuming you're a man. Thank you for the man wisdom. Silly me. I've been a girl roguevalley Dec 2012 #205

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #215

bullshit. it is. if women arent allowed to change their mind even if you roguevalley Dec 2012 #222

Exactly. The OP had a list of MineralMan Dec 2012 #181

Wait, what now? FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #105

the whole OP is a treatise to how to read "no" as anything other than "no." redqueen Nov 2012 #106

the women that say no do not mean it enough? that would be legitimate rape from false rape. seabeyond Nov 2012 #107

Are you agnostic on date rape too? morningfog Nov 2012 #110

For those interested, here is another RegieRocker vomit statement: demmiblue Nov 2012 #113

Listen to me: FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #114

demmi is not saying this. the poster copy and pasted something regie said. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #115

You're right FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #117

the wonderful thing seabeyond Nov 2012 #119

FlightForMichigan, I hug you. Seriously. :*( roguevalley Dec 2012 #207

Do these fuckers get it that rapists LIE????? boston bean Nov 2012 #116

omg obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #123

repeatedly!?! What about telling boys if they molest someone's daughter their dad roguevalley Dec 2012 #206

Rapists tell the judge the woman consented. Even though the victim was screaming no. boston bean Nov 2012 #118

No, the woman doesn't have to say no obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #121

Perfectly stated! MineralMan Dec 2012 #182

Get lost. morningfog Nov 2012 #108

WOW, Well I guess you painted yourself out of a corner HUH? WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #126

I am so fucking sick of this shit. Good fucking grief. I am so enraged by these people. I will amywalk Dec 2012 #136

or amy.... seabeyond Dec 2012 #139

Amy, you are loved. Know that from me. :*( roguevalley Dec 2012 #208

so many self deluded entitled wannabes have lost their way all day lunasun Dec 2012 #141

These threads are ridiculous and your OP is pedantic, obtuse and insulting all at the same time. stevenleser Dec 2012 #143

Steve, why do you think quite a few men here claim they can't tell they have consent? bettyellen Dec 2012 #180

I really dont know what its about. On the one hand, at least half seem to be low post newbies who I stevenleser Dec 2012 #184

Ah, I never notice who is new. I think many who had respectful behavior modeled for them don't need bettyellen Dec 2012 #187

I remember a fucking JUDGE in Ohio or some place back in the midwest told a FIVE roguevalley Dec 2012 #209

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #218

Yes means yes, no means no, and if you keep pushing it you are a rapist. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #145

it's making you what, exactly? iwillalwayswonderwhy Dec 2012 #151

really that disgusts me the most and makes clear it is an hostile OP to women. regardless if he seabeyond Dec 2012 #157

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #152

You need to delete this thread steve2470 Dec 2012 #159

decency. hey all, honest, decency and ALL this is so easy. dont even have to think. little decency seabeyond Dec 2012 #162

You realize your little story about you and your wife is trivializing genuine marital/acquaintance nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #166

Re: prostitutes freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #176

apparently, the OP finds categories of women to be good, bad, indifferent. roguevalley Dec 2012 #210

Reading your OP makes me sad that I am a man. Ugh, the "notches on the belt" coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #183

Reading your reply makes me a little less sad to be a man. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #214

have made me very proud of allot of other men on DU seabeyond Dec 2012 #220

Holy Shit Aerows Dec 2012 #196

I'm right with you. Was totally creeped out and mortified for my gender. As coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #216

This shit makes my skin crawl. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #225

I don't even know what to say about it Aerows Dec 2012 #226

TL;DNR Ian David Dec 2012 #227

Interesting... does such navel gazing change the impact of the assualt salin Dec 2012 #228

Whiskeytide is probably a rapist and should be banned. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #231

Nice attempt to justify rape. idwiyo Jan 2013 #233