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In reply to the discussion: Meet the Predators (men need to learn how to recognize and fight rape culture) [View all]mercuryblues
(16,133 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:06 AM - Edit history (1)
I can do with my attitude, now shall I tell you what you can do with yours?
I have heard the things you claim you never heard and I am willing to bet a good many women on this board also have. I refused dates with men to hear I must be on the "rag or something"
told I was a bitch, and many other derogatory names. No...it couldn't be they were assholes, I was the problem. Their buddies laughed. It wasn't in a movie as you dismissively suggest.
Your posts are prevalent in the attitude that women don't know a fucking thing if we would just shut up and listen, we would learn. Your overall wording is very telling,
such as this:
The author presumes that all or at least most men are somehow enablers of rapists. We're not
the point is that this article says that men need to learn how to combat a rape culture which assumes 2 things: 1, that there is a rape culture, and 2, that men - the descriptor used by the author - don't collectively know about it or how to deal with it. Both are wrong.
Unfortunately in your case, it's an opinion which seems to cut against well-accepted societal norms such as not stereotyping others in any case, not just when it doesn't affect you personally.
Then you posted this in response to someone posting that they have witnessed the behavior:
So you're internalizing and personalizing the discussion as well. After all, you say that you've seen and witnessed it. So that being the case, then it must be a universal, or at least broad enough that all of us dumb men need your snide assertions that we live in ivory towers or whatever because we haven't personally engaged in raping or otherwise abusing a woman. It's utter bullshit, and I suspect you know it.
Condescend much?
You have been told repeatedly in this thread that the OP states:
This blog post is dealing with the issues raised by two large-scale studies which show that an estimated 4-8% of men are committing the majority of rapes
Bettyellen wrote this:
No one anywhere said the majority of men participate in this
Again redqueen wrote this:
It is in the fucking OP: 4-8% of men are responsible for the vast majority of rapes. nt
I bolded it so you won't miss it this time.
It is sad that you feel the need to defend and deny behavior you CLAIM to never have seen. I'm the hypocrite when I tell you, you are wrong that the behavior is out there. Again, there is nothing wrong with you, your experiences are the ones that matter. Not that you're the ......
Women are wrong for thinking men should be held accountable. Like the author of the OP I am not saying ALL men. I am referring to the men that contribute to the culture, whether it was just once or twice or a pattern of behavior. But despite being told repeatedly you are still insisting that it means all men. Why is that? You are still denying it exists. Why is that?
whether or not you personally have ever seen it. You claim you haven't but then claim you have seen it in movies, so which is it?