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In reply to the discussion: Meet the Predators (men need to learn how to recognize and fight rape culture) [View all]TeamsterDem
(1,173 posts)I don't know what else to do, seeing as all you do is misquote me and construct straw men. What I'm saying is that this epidemic (that of some "rape culture"
doesn't exist to the extent you think it does amongst the male population, so lumping ALL men into that group is unfair, bigoted, and ignorant. To the extent that some men are rapists or would look the other way if one of their friends raped a woman, then yes, they should require lessons. But that population is TREMENDOUSLY small, as between the Marine Corps and Teamsters Union I'm friends with some of the "manliest" of men, and I've never once heard any of them talk about raping a woman, condoning rape, or using alcohol to sexually assault someone. Have I ever heard someone say a derogatory thing about a woman? Yes, of course. But never in a rape context, nor have I personally witnessed a man that I knew denigrating a woman's humanity. I've heard it on TV and the movies, but I honestly don't know anyone who believes women are anything other than what they are, fellow humans.
Perhaps it's some sort of syndrome with you that you think all of us are targeting you or somehow in disagreement with a woman's equality, but I assure you that we're not all that way (especially those of us wise enough to be born to Italian mothers).
I believe it was you who earlier in this thread stated that some asshole treated you roughly (I'm sorry, I don't recall the exact story ... not being dismissive or anything, just that it's late and I don't recall). I think that's physically revolting behavior on his part, and I certainly hope that he not only received a sentence for it, but also that he learned a lesson from it. Don't misunderstand my position: Rape is an extremely serious problem, and any rapist or person who assists a rapist by not saying anything deserve nothing but the harshest of prison sentences. But in making that case you'll notice that I don't have to make broad-ranging assertions about whole groups of non-offending people, I instead judge only the offenders and their enablers.
Hopefully you can get past whatever issue has you so hostile to the idea that men too can be victims of profiling, and that - shockingly - they don't like it. For some of us it's nothing but purely offensive to hear how we're in some way, shape, or form a part of a problem group when we haven't done anything to deserve that designation. You've made about a billion assumptions tonight about me, recently suggesting that I "don't get out much," yet you don't even know me. You have no idea who I am or what I've done, yet feel such ease assuming whatever you like and then the nerve to tell me to stop talking. Well, sister, this is a public message board, and as such I'll keep posting here until DU says otherwise. Here's a hint: You ain't DU. And since you've shown a rather stark inability to deduce meanings of things tonight I'll make it very plain: That means I won't be honoring your "request" or demands, and I'll continue to opine whenever and wherever I choose, within DU's rules, of course.