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TM99

(8,352 posts)
11. Misinformation
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:28 AM
Dec 2012

Yes, I get that many, including myself, are upset about how private institutions (and state ones for that matter) are more concerned with money than with education these days. And don't get me started on the private banks and the student loan scandal of our time.

However, with that said, the University of Phoenix is an accredited institution that offers legitimate online and offline courses and degrees. It is not a diploma mill.

My undergraduate degree was from a small private liberal arts college on the US News & World Reports top schools. I then got my first Masters at an Ivy League institution. A few years after that I earned two degrees from the University of Phoenix, one in clinical mental health counseling and the other an MBA with a concentration in entrepreneurship. I went straight into an excellent state university's Doctoral program in psychology where I finished my professional training. I have also done several online programs with certs in various subjects including electronics and computer programming.

The University of Phoenix was, at the time I did my studies, the only stand-alone terminal Masters at a private institution with CACREP accreditation which it has maintained in good standing to the present day. I was able to start a private practice in psychotherapy with that degree well before finishing a Doctorate. That gave me an opportunity to start supervision in the therapeutic schools that normally would have required waiting until I had finished my Doctorate.

I had bad teachers and good teachers at all of these institutions. I ran into good and bad administrative decisions as well at all of these institutions. Each had their strengths and their weakness. For someone as self-motivated as I have always been, the adult education model at the UoP was ideal for me while I worked and played gigs.

Other than correcting this bit of misinformation, I agree with the bulk of your response. The key to a good education is solely with the student. Online education can be excellent but it does depend upon the student's learning style. Are they self-directed? Do they mind not having actual face-to-face contact? If they intend to go further with graduate or post-graduate work, they have to make sure that their online program is regionally accredited by the DOE.

Coursera is excellent. Have you also checked out The Saylor Foundation? It is completely open-source material with full 'majors' in various subjects. Check it out.

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These places are much more than an education to the top elite... Earth_First Dec 2012 #1
Why would you wonder that? pipoman Dec 2012 #2
Why not? CK_John Dec 2012 #3
Students also go there for lifelong associations through clubs and fraternities/sororities. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #4
Only if you have a job and when 50% of college grads are unemployed CK_John Dec 2012 #5
Here's the thing. If you're at Harvard or Yale, no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #13
It's not 50% for those from top universities Nikia Dec 2012 #16
SUNY in NY runs a large online program. Renew Deal Dec 2012 #9
Exactly, Kansas state institutions pipoman Dec 2012 #10
There's a huge difference between U of Phoenix-type classes and legitimate online WilmywoodNCparalegal Dec 2012 #6
I think you are mixing education with making a buck. When guys like CK_John Dec 2012 #8
Misinformation TM99 Dec 2012 #11
it's a diploma mill funded with taxpayer dollars in the form of student loans. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #17
It is not a diploma mill....period. TM99 Dec 2012 #19
we'll agree to disagree. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20
Afraid not TM99 Dec 2012 #23
I disagree. But you can keep your belief in my erroneousness while agreeing to disagree. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #24
It is not belief TM99 Dec 2012 #25
it is a belief, just as belief in gravity. the belief may be true, may be false, but it's a belief. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #26
Semantic bullshit at this point TM99 Dec 2012 #27
not asking you to do anything. i don't care if you agree with me, just trying to end HiPointDem Dec 2012 #28
We have a system of local state colleges that offer many quality on-line classes that give many jwirr Dec 2012 #15
I have on child who is an ivy league student. aandegoons Dec 2012 #7
lol! yardwork Dec 2012 #12
They're starting their own on-line degree programs. Barack_America Dec 2012 #14
Yes they will. Because people would sell their souls to get in. white_wolf Dec 2012 #18
NYU is a very good school. I've known several NYU Law grads, amandabeech Dec 2012 #21
NYU's my dream law school. white_wolf Dec 2012 #22
Believe me, Yalies get all the "big law" that they want. n/t amandabeech Dec 2012 #29
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