Meet the Predators (men need to learn how to recognize and fight rape culture)

[TeamsterDem]

192. Does contorting yourself so strenuously cause physical pain?

I mean, the OP and the blog piece make specific mention of men and their role in combating rape. But the OP and the blog piece both suggested that men need training - to wit "men need some lessons" - on rape, and men being an all-inclusive word and me being a man, I have and had every right to comment on that portion of the title and blog piece. Which I did. And which you've continued at length. So it was either relevant or you're an idiot, seeing as how no one responds to someone who offers pure bullshit as an opener, and no one wastes so much time with someone doing as much lying as you're accusing me of. So take your pick, you're an idiot or my response was perfectly relevant. Not a flattering choice, but I'm afraid those are the only two options given the circumstances.

As to me not understanding rape, its effects, who rapists can be, and the like, my sister was raped when she was 14 by an attractive, well-to-do banker who literally no one thought of as a rapist (well, until the rape). She was not only raped but physically beaten during the attack. So I'm unfortunately all-too-familiar with rape, its aftermath, its ugliness, and its insidious way of "hiding" in otherwise "normal" looking guys. You're now batting a perfect .000 when it comes to your assumptions about me. Congrats. That takes doing.

When I said I avoid hanging out with certain people, I never said I was always perfectly successful in avoiding less-than-desirable friends. I did however experience luck in not selecting any rapists as friends, the extent of the claim I made to you was that. I never said I look at how a guy dresses or his employment status as a litmus test regarding possible friendship. What I said was that I try to make judgments about that person as a potential friend given their attitude, how they talk and act, and what I may or may not know about them. It's actually exactly what everyone else does, just that I specified it whereas others usually don't describe their friend selection process.

I never said the blog piece didn't apply to me, in fact I've said just the opposite: that as a man it most certainly does affect me that people are stereotyping us into a group with rapists. The rape part doesn't apply to me as a man who doesn't rape people, but as a man the stereotype DOES affect me, just as stereotypes necessarily always affect those being stereotyped. How you can deny that is flabbergasting. Worse, how you can attempt to blame a victim of bigotry instead of blaming the bigot is extremely telling about your character, not about mine for not enjoying being stereotyped.

With respect to why I'm still here posting it's because I'll not cede a valid argument to the likes of you, someone who thinks that by putting words in someone's mouth that that a good argument makes, and someone who's evidently quite eager to defend bigotry in the way that you are. I wouldn't expect a debate opponent of mine to disappear simply by dint of my disagreeing with them, what gives you such an undeserved sense of importance that you think the majesty of your utter bullshit should just make people flee? Well, I'll have to partially agree: To read so much of your lies and other manufactures in such a short time would have probably made many squeamish folks run for the hills, but your bullshit and bombast don't give me fear but instead amazement at the sheer lengths some idiot will go to defend the indefensible simply because he or she doesn't like the messenger. It is astounding, but not very intimidating.