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Voltaire2

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103. I did not make the claim that it is illegal
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 02:37 PM
Jul 2024

or unconstitutional for the Democratic Party to change who it nominates, or for elected party delegates to vote for any other candidate.

All it takes is for the person making these claims to cite the relevant state or federal laws or the section of the constitution.

In general, when arguing, it is the responsibility of a person making a claim to provide some evidence for that claim.

Theoretically I could do a search of all federal and state laws in order to prove that no such law exists. It would obviously be easier for somebody to come up with one example of such a law.

On the other hand the claims are ridiculous. How political parties regulate their conventions is entirely up to those parties. The delegates are required *by party rules* to vote for the candidate they were elected to vote for, but only for the first round. In addition, there are processes in place, again set up entirely by the parties, not by any government, for contingencies such as a delegates candidate withdrawing.

The claim that this would be illegal needs some evidence to back it up.

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Nonsense. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #1
Noted. Float your "supposes," I'm not supposing. Neither is Biden. Biden has made up his mind. RESPECT BIDEN. ancianita Jul 2024 #2
I do respect Biden Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #5
Proof? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #15
Well for starters whoever was prepping him Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #27
Oh. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #46
The dems should be shouting this from the rooftops: DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #97
It would probably be easier to just say he's a lying sack of crap MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #101
It's already been ascertained... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #96
BRAVO DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #99
Ya know, I initially thought that honestly, especially Ron Klain until it was reported he was at Camp David also Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #98
Not really. You still think he should change his mind. He's not. ancianita Jul 2024 #18
Yes, they DO know what the situation is... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #31
What situation? Marthe48 Jul 2024 #60
6/27 9:00pm. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #63
Beyond that Marthe48 Jul 2024 #76
And what "situation" do mean? 2naSalit Jul 2024 #94
If something were to happen to President Biden before the election MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #7
Cool. We know this because she's the other primary winner. But she's also totally behind Joe's decision to run. ancianita Jul 2024 #19
Nope. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #22
Thx for the article MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #51
BIden is the nominee. Stop the bullshit please. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #58
Slight correction, as said in that post, She WOULD become President karynnj Jul 2024 #61
The VP would become the sitting President Zeitghost Jul 2024 #87
None of your scenarios have happened Bettie Jul 2024 #11
Felon 45 had a worse one. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #100
hello bigtree Jul 2024 #12
Yes. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #16
Exactly. Thank you. ancianita Jul 2024 #21
The DNC has rules for replacing a nominee. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #24
hi bigtree Jul 2024 #35
He can withdraw. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #41
so, he says he's not going to bigtree Jul 2024 #45
Keep in mind that laws regarding primaries in most states are dated from the 1980s onward LeftInTX Jul 2024 #57
What state has a law controlling how a presidential Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #66
See post 30 LeftInTX Jul 2024 #69
Lol. Op has now repeatedly admitted ignorance. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #72
There are laws regulating primary elections. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #77
Still waiting. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #78
Abbott could write an executive order. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #80
You first. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #102
I did not make the claim that it is illegal Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #103
I agree forcing him out is undemocratic, but i doubt it is unconstutional karynnj Jul 2024 #73
Primaries are not covered by the Constitution Zeitghost Jul 2024 #83
And then how would a new candidate's name wnylib Jul 2024 #32
Same way the vp gets on the ballot every 4 years. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #42
Ohio? wnylib Jul 2024 #52
Ohio agreed to move their deadline. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #54
But I am actually more concerned with the chaos of last minute switching. wnylib Jul 2024 #65
So a growing number of people in leadership Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #68
Naive, perhaps, or not fully informed. Or just anxious about November wnylib Jul 2024 #114
Nope, it's not Nonsense VeryProgressive Jul 2024 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #106
No, it's not. Goodheart Jul 2024 #3
What's "not." ancianita Jul 2024 #4
It's not against the law. Goodheart Jul 2024 #6
How do you know? Got a source link? I'm just supposed to take your un-sourced, un-linked word as final? ancianita Jul 2024 #13
My point is exactly what I stated: it's not against the law Goodheart Jul 2024 #25
Come ON. I conceded that I could be wrong. Yours is an empty, contrarian post without a link or concession. ancianita Jul 2024 #29
Here is a good analysis of the various scenarios Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #47
Thanks. Also check out LetMyPeopleVote's post downthread. ancianita Jul 2024 #49
What law? Renew Deal Jul 2024 #8
the constitution, for one bigtree Jul 2024 #14
The constitution has no provisions for primaries Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #48
'provision' - 'provides for' bigtree Jul 2024 #56
You claimed Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #59
it provides for it, so no sea-lioning, now bigtree Jul 2024 #64
There are zero provisions in the constitution Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #75
yeah but that's a deflection from what you clearly know I meant bigtree Jul 2024 #92
You saw that I said I don't know for sure, right? ancianita Jul 2024 #17
Apparently some Democrats MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #34
it needs to be shouted bigtree Jul 2024 #9
Okay, then! ancianita Jul 2024 #23
We rely on the delegates keeping their word Progressive dog Jul 2024 #10
It may not be about Biden at all. hunter Jul 2024 #20
It could be about any candidate who can win and then enable Proj 25 to be the end of democratic governing. ancianita Jul 2024 #26
Go Joe!!! 🌊 !!! Think. Again. Jul 2024 #44
That's not a factual statement Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #28
I conceded that it might not be. ancianita Jul 2024 #33
"Look, a squirrel!" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #38
Right? I call it unhelpful niggling. ancianita Jul 2024 #40
The title of the op is a diversion? Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #50
More like hyperbole. I don't want to stupidly offend, so I've edited the title. ancianita Jul 2024 #82
If President Biden is removed from the ballot, the GOP will sue and keep the party off the ballot in a number of states LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #30
And there we have it. THANK YOU for enlightening us on how Heritage can further complicate this stupid situation ancianita Jul 2024 #36
Excellent post. Thank you. jmbar2 Jul 2024 #37
This is too good not to be an OP on DU. Hope you'll consider. Thank you SO much - the links & insights ancianita Jul 2024 #53
I did some more research and started a thread LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #113
Whatever those fuckers are against I'm for. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #55
You're playing right into their hands LeftInTX Jul 2024 #85
This part right here. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #89
What law and what primary? Nt Azathoth Jul 2024 #39
Reread the OP and my posts upthread. ancianita Jul 2024 #43
You are sincere but incorrect. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #62
it's still ratfucking to try and force the people's choice to the curb bigtree Jul 2024 #70
I'm not arguing with your point. I am only saying that the OP is incorrect totodeinhere Jul 2024 #86
yeah, but bigtree Jul 2024 #91
Sincere is not for nothing. ancianita Jul 2024 #71
All I am saying is that it is not against the law, totodeinhere Jul 2024 #88
I hear you. ancianita Jul 2024 #90
Stop shouting please, especially when nobody is talking about illegal acts themaguffin Jul 2024 #67
Reread the title. I'm not shouting. I'll change the wording that's incorrect, thanks. ancianita Jul 2024 #74
"ALL CAPS" shouting themaguffin Jul 2024 #79
Not Internet Law, nor a hard and fast rule on platforms or DU, and its use is explained in the title. ancianita Jul 2024 #84
SQUIRRELS! bigtree Jul 2024 #93
All caps is universally considered yelling and yeah, the original post was finally edited. Oof. themaguffin Jul 2024 #111
The OP literally says, MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #104
Yeah themaguffin Jul 2024 #112
according to scotus all laws are meant to be broken ImNotGod Jul 2024 #81
But mama, that's where the fun is JoseBalow Jul 2024 #105
Dems attacking Biden are 'doing more damage' than the debate: analyst LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #107
Absolutely. Thanks for the backup sources. ancianita Jul 2024 #109
Dems attacking Biden are 'doing more damage' than the debate: analyst LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #108
I support President Biden more now than ever LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #110
Here's some historical perspective on why you cannot change candidates at this late date LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #115
Thank you! 120 days out, it's been time to move from preaching to the converted to spreading the good thinking around. ancianita Jul 2024 #116
YUP! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #117
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