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Sympthsical

(10,832 posts)
75. This is so weird
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 08:29 AM
Jul 2024

I truly think the leadership are having private conversations that are very different than what gets said publicly.

Schumer had a bit of this as well. When some senators expressed their doubts, his reply wasn't something like, "Well, the President has made his decision, so we should support him." His response was, "If you feel that strongly, why don't you go over there and tell him?"

Which is something a boss would say when they're letting you know, "I'm not going to be the one to do it, but I'm not against it either."

It's like they're trying to finesse his departure from the race, but they think a direct approach would be counterproductive in some way, that the harder they push the more firmly the President will dig in. But, if that's the case, I'm not sure this approach is any more productive. It's as Rep. Ritchie Torres says (my favorite of the representatives):

The drip, drip, drip of public statements of no confidence only serve to weaken a President who has been weakened not only by the debate but also by the debate about the debate.

Weakening a weakened nominee seems like a losing strategy for a presidential election. The piling-on is not so much solving a problem as much as it is creating and compounding one.

The process by which we decide how to move forward matters as much as the decision itself.


If leadership is going to push him, then push him already.

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Nancy Pelosi comments today [View all] brooklynite Jul 2024 OP
I'm worried about Nancy. Emile Jul 2024 #1
Yes. that response was darned surprising to me. gab13by13 Jul 2024 #3
Apparently she didn't see that he has already decided. Over, and over,and over again. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #4
Somebody should tell her that Biden has decided. LisaL Jul 2024 #7
Apparently she Rebl2 Jul 2024 #106
I'm not worried about her. She's been a great leader themaguffin Jul 2024 #107
Oh my, I don't know now. gab13by13 Jul 2024 #2
This is weird because he already made the decision, over, and over and over again. Did she not get the memo? Deek1935 Jul 2024 #6
Sounds like she is worried about winning the election. Probably has internal polls that are more predictive. Silent Type Jul 2024 #95
I just called her office because the chyron said she said he should step down ms liberty Jul 2024 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 2024 #8
Christ, is this REALLY going to happen? BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #9
They can't push him out. LisaL Jul 2024 #11
Yeah but if the party abandons support for him, he may have no choice but to abdicate. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #13
He can ignore them. LisaL Jul 2024 #14
That was after the convention Polybius Jul 2024 #18
Doesn't matter. LisaL Jul 2024 #21
It matters a little Polybius Jul 2024 #29
The same was said in 2016 RE Hillary Clinton... DiamondShark Jul 2024 #92
But there wasn't 9 Congressman saying that Hillary should drop out Polybius Jul 2024 #116
In that case, this needs to be restated. DiamondShark Jul 2024 #117
Not gonna happen. Way too many have already pledged support and strongly support him. It would be civil war in the party Deek1935 Jul 2024 #17
Sounds like the party is already having a civil war. LisaL Jul 2024 #19
Which is just what the rotten corporate media wants and is fueling. Biden has made the decision. Changing now would be Deek1935 Jul 2024 #22
Repulsive I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2024 #88
Nobody wants to push him out. Goodheart Jul 2024 #103
She is acting like she doesn't realize that he has ALREADY "decided". He has said over and over that he is in the race. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #15
Maybe she doesn't. LisaL Jul 2024 #16
Yes, not the response I expected. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #25
Nancy never has, nor never will "capitulate to the fascists." Tom Rinaldo Jul 2024 #94
Holy shit Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2024 #10
Ironically, Nancy is older than Biden. LisaL Jul 2024 #12
And voluntarily gave up the speakership marybourg Jul 2024 #53
After democrats lost the majority in the House. LisaL Jul 2024 #73
And running for re-election Deminpenn Jul 2024 #85
I think there is def something going on DemocratInPa Jul 2024 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 2024 #23
This is baffling in multiple respects: EarlG Jul 2024 #24
Yes, Trump doesn't even need to try. LisaL Jul 2024 #26
"maybe if we all stand around gently weakening Biden until he caves" shrike3 Jul 2024 #30
They are doing this now, after... DemocratInPa Jul 2024 #31
I don't think a lot of them supported Joe in the first place. shrike3 Jul 2024 #33
What is their plan if they were to get rid of him? LisaL Jul 2024 #34
Neither do I. I've even asked people on this site who seem to be on that bandwagon. shrike3 Jul 2024 #36
What's the plan if Biden loses to Trump? Kaleva Jul 2024 #37
What is the plan if they replace Biden with some new candidate and that LisaL Jul 2024 #39
I'll go on with my life as I usually do. Kaleva Jul 2024 #110
What's the plan if the replacement nominee loses to Trump? We are strongest with an INCUMBENT candidate. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #42
What fantasy candidate is going to come swooping in to beat Trump in a landslide? Not gonna happen. It will be close no Deek1935 Jul 2024 #43
Unicorn / Tooth Fairy 2024 Qutzupalotl Jul 2024 #102
That doesn't say what your plan is if Biden loses Kaleva Jul 2024 #112
Survive it as best we can. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #47
Let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win this election? LisaL Jul 2024 #50
Of course. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #59
I agree Kaleva Jul 2024 #111
But then why didn't they act before this in the primaries? wnylib Jul 2024 #44
Good question, indeed. LisaL Jul 2024 #48
I think they live their little lives in their little bubble and don't do much but react to what's in front of them. shrike3 Jul 2024 #52
I agree regarding most of them. But Pelosi? wnylib Jul 2024 #55
She's part of their world. shrike3 Jul 2024 #56
I think tomorrow's press conference could be the turning point Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #61
Tying two threads together to ask Democratic leaders the question: WTF Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #64
Dems being "coy" and "wishy washy" is what we've been living with the last 25 years Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #66
Well, yes and no EarlG Jul 2024 #78
She's trying to give Biden an honorable way out. ClearSky24 Jul 2024 #93
The inside polling (voters) suggest Joe Biden is our nominee! Emile Jul 2024 #96
Thank you, EarlG. It is indeed a head-scratcher. ucrdem Jul 2024 #104
Thank you EarlG MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #105
I agree. We're in limbo. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #118
Old white people are abandoning their own. shrike3 Jul 2024 #27
Trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. LisaL Jul 2024 #32
He said he's running spanone Jul 2024 #28
We know. LisaL Jul 2024 #35
Well now we know exactly where she stands doc03 Jul 2024 #38
On top of the fence. LisaL Jul 2024 #40
I don't know what exactly what she's doing BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #41
Deeply and so sadly disappointed in Speaker Emerita Pelosi. lark Jul 2024 #45
Ermm, he DID decide! ananda Jul 2024 #46
Sounds like she still doesn't know. LisaL Jul 2024 #49
I know. ananda Jul 2024 #89
We just don't know enough to interpret some of the moves and statements being made Jersey Devil Jul 2024 #51
Supposed he does a good solid press event but still doesn't meet their standards? FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #84
Joe should come out and disarm them with humor Jersey Devil Jul 2024 #87
Won't he have more control at a NATO press conference? onandup Jul 2024 #91
So, she's not throwing Joe under the bus just yet Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #54
He has made the decision. I think maybe she needs to Emile Jul 2024 #58
Until he has been nominated by the party, there are many who don't accept Biden's decision as final. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #65
As Biden already said, they can try during the convention. LisaL Jul 2024 #68
It's a yes or no question MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #113
You posted this without comment. Did you intend this to cause dissension within the DU community? Fla Dem Jul 2024 #57
I posted it because its news. brooklynite Jul 2024 #60
Why is voices in Nancy's head news? Emile Jul 2024 #62
Are you saying that Nancy Pelosi can't express her opinion? brooklynite Jul 2024 #63
Nope, she can have an opinion. She ignored the fact that President Biden has Emile Jul 2024 #67
You're welcome to disagree with her opinion. Doesn't make it not news. brooklynite Jul 2024 #70
I'm not the one trying to make news out of thin air. Emile Jul 2024 #71
I'm not making news either. I'm reporting it. brooklynite Jul 2024 #74
It's not news! Emile Jul 2024 #76
The news IS that Speaker PELOSI said what she said. farmboy Jul 2024 #77
Nancy ignores the fact that President Biden repeatedly Emile Jul 2024 #82
Biden has repeatedly he made his decision. LisaL Jul 2024 #69
Yes MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #114
I totally disagree with her statement. Fla Dem Jul 2024 #79
I have stated my opinion frequently over the past week. brooklynite Jul 2024 #81
We all have a short attention span and need to be reminded where/who people support. DiamondShark Jul 2024 #97
I am hearing that Mega-donors are not returning calls... brooklynite Jul 2024 #100
They removed my excerpt quoting James Carville's New York Times article. ClearSky24 Jul 2024 #83
Part of a long established pattern of posting almost exclusively bad news for Dems BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #99
Biden has said over and over he's running. Hell the man is campaigning Autumn Jul 2024 #72
This is so weird Sympthsical Jul 2024 #75
of course GusBob Jul 2024 #101
Maybe Nancy is waiting for tomorrow's Biden press conference? Jersey Devil Jul 2024 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author usaf-vet Jul 2024 #86
my take, FWIW Quiet Em Jul 2024 #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #98
I know plenty of equally dedicated friends and family who remain deeply concerned about Biden staying in. brooklynite Jul 2024 #108
Yeah, there is way to much hide the bubble action happening. themaguffin Jul 2024 #109
Very interesting OP/thread. H2O Man Jul 2024 #115
The NYT is lying about Speaker Emerita's comments LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #119
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