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shrike3

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163. I'm trying figure out his agenda, because they all have one.

Wed Jul 10, 2024, 06:12 PM

Jul 2024

Biden has one. His is pretty clear; he wants a second term. All these people screaming for Biden to drop out: what's their agenda? I am much too cynical to believe they are all just patriots who love their country. George lives in Italy and is worth $233 million dollars. Let's not kid ourselves that our donors are all wonderful and their donors are all bad. Donors get involved in politics for a reason. Reasons vary. I'm not going to speculate what George's is. I'm at the point where I figure I'm not going to know. I do find it grimly amusing that some people who pooh-poohed the political types plastered all over the NYT op-ed page are ready to go with George. The handsome movie star. My cynicism there, sorry. Wonder if George contacted the NYT or they came to him. They're bound and determined to get Biden out and they apparently picked the right person this time.

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This was a revenge move: George Clooney called White House to defend wife's work on Israel warrants [View all] flamingdem Jul 2024 OP

Knew there was more to the story. shrike3 Jul 2024 #1

I agree orion9941 Jul 2024 #33

Hey, he's one of the elite. He can just go back to his palace in Italy. No real skin off his nose. nt Biophilic Jul 2024 #55

If this was the reason, then why didn't Clooney back out of the big fundraiser? pnwmom Jul 2024 #72

I have no idea. This is very strange. shrike3 Jul 2024 #73

USSC ruling declaring Presidents immune to prosecution and Project 2025. eom DiamondShark Jul 2024 #99

What is the "more to the story?" themaguffin Jul 2024 #94

Read the OP? shrike3 Jul 2024 #95

Yeah, &the OP is wrong. Clooney had done a large fundraiser for Biden recently too. Let's drop the baseless conspiracy themaguffin Jul 2024 #98

I think that fund raiser was the been before his phone call to the WH. CincyDem Jul 2024 #104

No, his phone call to the WH was weeks BEFORE the fundraiser. pnwmom Jul 2024 #110

So, it was known before the fund raiser that Clooney was upset. shrike3 Jul 2024 #124

The fundraiser was on June 15, so almost a month ago, pnwmom Jul 2024 #155

I'm trying figure out his agenda, because they all have one. shrike3 Jul 2024 #163

Got it. Misread it as 3 weeks ago from today. CincyDem Jul 2024 #134

You do you. shrike3 Jul 2024 #109

Yep, I will continue to not get caught up in bullshit. Next. themaguffin Jul 2024 #122

Well, good for you. shrike3 Jul 2024 #126

Ok, not sure why a baseless, irrational & unplausible conspiracy theory is good to you, but you do you... themaguffin Jul 2024 #141

Any movement from Biden on this issue followed with Clooney subsequent re-endorsement ColinC Jul 2024 #2

I got a text from Clooney and Robert De Niro on July 3 LeftInTX Jul 2024 #50

So did I. shrike3 Jul 2024 #96

Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2024 #3

Bennet lost his bid for President flamingdem Jul 2024 #4

Yes, whole bunch of egos floating around out there PatSeg Jul 2024 #64

Can't say it's making me proud of my party flamingdem Jul 2024 #89

Same here PatSeg Jul 2024 #118

Yeah, he would host a $13 Million dollar Biden fund raiser before the debate just to get him back after. Silent Type Jul 2024 #5

He's trying to stay relevant and pressure Biden to declare Bibi a war criminal flamingdem Jul 2024 #14

Probably would have been best to stand their with a $13 M check asking for consideration than to say this today. Silent Type Jul 2024 #19

I thought it was fourteen million. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #34

Biden's likely thinking... Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #63

Exactly. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #25

That's why this thing makes absolutely no sense. shrike3 Jul 2024 #83

It makes sense if clooney is doing it for the good of the country questionseverything Jul 2024 #103

Clooney may believe he is doing it for the good of the country Progressive dog Jul 2024 #132

I'm not buyin' it. Something's going on. I don't know what it is. shrike3 Jul 2024 #136

The good of the country? Really? At a time when Trump is out in the wild he decides to go after the old guy. shrike3 Jul 2024 #133

It makes sense if YodaMom2 Jul 2024 #128

NYT sure picked the right guy for an op-ed this time. The handsome movie star'll get it done. shrike3 Jul 2024 #135

I'm skeptical of people who comment extensively on things they haven't read. nt pnwmom Jul 2024 #175

I'm skeptical of people who can't see the obvious. shrike3 Jul 2024 #183

What bothers me about this whole thread is that so many people are piling on pnwmom Jul 2024 #157

Thanks! YodaMom2 Jul 2024 #166

Well, I hope you stay. Pre-convention is always a stressful time around here, pnwmom Jul 2024 #174

I was concerned that Joe's comments on the ICC warrants would cause problems ScratchCat Jul 2024 #6

There it is. I hope Lawrence O'Donnell will talk about this tonight. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #7

It's incredible how people on this board want to spin concerns from true blue Democrats. Maybe they have Pisces Jul 2024 #8

Why did Clooney host a fund raiser for Biden prior to the debate if he was so concerned? shrike3 Jul 2024 #9

Courting favor with the elites to promote his anti Bibi agenda for his wife flamingdem Jul 2024 #11

I'd believe that. shrike3 Jul 2024 #13

Keep spinning and throwing shade on true blue Dems. None of this matters until the convention and Pisces Jul 2024 #16

Keep Trying To Nobble Our Party's Candidate, And See What Happens The Magistrate Jul 2024 #20

If Debate Biden is the real Biden, why has Clooney raised all that money for him? shrike3 Jul 2024 #21

Ridiculous premise that these True Blue democrats have a Pisces Jul 2024 #42

I hear myself just fine, thank you very much. You obviously don't, but I don't really care. shrike3 Jul 2024 #57

"True Blue democrats." dchill Jul 2024 #71

Far right pro tRump Netanyahu is preventing mid-east peace GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #17

Everything you wrote is false. Mosby Jul 2024 #173

Everything I wrote has been widely reported GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #180

You're victim blaming. Mosby Jul 2024 #184

I'm reporting actual facts! GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #185

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2024 #186

My question too Rebl2 Jul 2024 #18

Thanks.. & Axelrod? He's Whined about Pres Biden forever. Cha Jul 2024 #40

I know. I mean, Axelrod's a non-starter. If it was something new, yeah, but .., n/t shrike3 Jul 2024 #60

From his op-ed, it appears he became concerned about Biden AFTER he was with him pnwmom Jul 2024 #66

No, I didn't read it. I don't read the NYT. Anyway, I find it hard to believe that he became concerned, shrike3 Jul 2024 #69

The impression I had from reading the piece was that the debate solidified an impression pnwmom Jul 2024 #74

Again, this is an overnight conversion Clooney apparently had. shrike3 Jul 2024 #77

Not overnight: The fundraiser. The debate. The ABC interview. pnwmom Jul 2024 #78

Which happened within a week. shrike3 Jul 2024 #81

If you haven't even read his piece, I don't think your bullshit detector would work very well. nt pnwmom Jul 2024 #100

It works very well. It's been going off ever since this whole thing started. shrike3 Jul 2024 #107

If you haven't even bothered to read what he wrote, your opinion is uninformed. nt pnwmom Jul 2024 #112

Meaning he got caught up on the dump Biden train flamingdem Jul 2024 #149

How can you criticize an op-ed you haven't bothered to read? pnwmom Jul 2024 #154

You're right. That one stinks. Others should have been alarmed as well flamingdem Jul 2024 #91

As Alice in Wonderland said, Curiouser and curiouser. shrike3 Jul 2024 #92

He didn't say it at the June 15th fundraiser he organized. He's saying it now, pnwmom Jul 2024 #101

Clooney bitched about the Stephanopoulos interview flamingdem Jul 2024 #10

Name one "right of center Democrat", please. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #37

Yes. Your first paragraph says it all. MotownPgh Jul 2024 #24

The election is not until November. So yr friends were wrong Trump, did not "just win the election in real time." emulatorloo Jul 2024 #28

Well calendar challenged or not, MotownPgh Jul 2024 #35

Majority of Dems are standing up in support of Biden, and the press secretary is dealing w a pack of rabid dogs emulatorloo Jul 2024 #38

When Joe gets to be 93, get back to us. Not going to change my mind with an anecdote not germane to Joe Biden. marble falls Jul 2024 #39

You can be dismissive, but people MotownPgh Jul 2024 #58

I know what I saw. A stutterer with a cold. shrike3 Jul 2024 #88

I really really don't want to get into a back MotownPgh Jul 2024 #111

Tell your father you can't diagnose a person by watching them on TV. shrike3 Jul 2024 #87

He never diagnosed anyone. He observed MotownPgh Jul 2024 #114

Uh -- he was old in 2020? He was old before all this started? shrike3 Jul 2024 #121

Listen, i am talking about optics. MotownPgh Jul 2024 #129

And here Northeastern University's crunching of the numbers found Biden's support wasn't significantly impacted. shrike3 Jul 2024 #131

I have never actually said how I MotownPgh Jul 2024 #137

I defer to your wisdom, even if Northeastern didn't. shrike3 Jul 2024 #138

TY for the Reaction of the Swing Voters! Cha Jul 2024 #44

If it isn't Joe it will be Trump edisdead Jul 2024 #43

The panic was immediate and temporary. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #65

Thank you for saying that. Confirmation bias can result from attacking anyone who has a different opinion. Doodley Jul 2024 #32

Please identify 'so many' ... Xoan Jul 2024 #68

It is not possible to discuss removing a sitting President Progressive dog Jul 2024 #142

No evidence that Clooney publicly said Biden should step down GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #12

It's in the NYT flamingdem Jul 2024 #15

Did Clooney write an op-ed saying this? GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #27

Yes, it was posted here, I responded. Give me a minute to find it. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #45

I stand corrected. I hadn't seen it on DU GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #181

No problem, I know how hard it is too keep up with everything. I'm usually several steps behind. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #187

I stand corrected. Shame on traitor Clooney GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #182

Just another snot nosed celebrity w/ax to grind. oasis Jul 2024 #22

You sound like a Repub. snot nosed celebrity, hmm. Giving yourself away Pisces Jul 2024 #47

Well Just for your FYI, Pisces.. he's a True Blue Dem. I've respected oasis on DU Cha Jul 2024 #67

Thank you Cha. oasis Jul 2024 #93

lol I was hoping Cha Jul 2024 #97

NYT sure chose the right op-ed writer this time. shrike3 Jul 2024 #139

Yeah doesn't Cha Jul 2024 #146

I love him, too. And he's used to bare knuckle brawling. I mean, he's from Hollywood. shrike3 Jul 2024 #151

It might be Cha Jul 2024 #156

I don't know. We'll probably never know. shrike3 Jul 2024 #165

Consider yourself and Clooney uninvited oasis Jul 2024 #113

You do understand that Clooney has raised millions for Biden? Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #168

"We are not going to win in November with oasis Jul 2024 #170

Biden does not hold grudges. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #171

Joe won't harbor animosity, nor will I. oasis Jul 2024 #172

Why do people feel the need to come up with conspiracy theories when the simple answer is what was stated? brooklynite Jul 2024 #23

Exactly. Clooney is entitled to his opinion. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #30

So were Bernie bros. edisdead Jul 2024 #46

Clooney's nothing like our 'beloved' B-or-Bust crowd of yesteryear fortunately. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #90

Agreed! Well said! Doodley Jul 2024 #31

Asking Biden to step down at this late stage of the race dlk Jul 2024 #59

I think everyone suggesting that Biden step down wants to choose the nominee at the convention. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #85

How realistic would it be to find a "magical" candidate who could defeat Trump at this late stage of the election cycle? dlk Jul 2024 #108

They probably already decided on a replacement Blaukraut Jul 2024 #116

There's no magical candidate that would guarantee a win, for sure. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #117

He has opinions about that, too. If you don't at least read what he had to say, pnwmom Jul 2024 #115

Agree Renew Deal Jul 2024 #70

I'm just sort of chuckling at the reaction. shrike3 Jul 2024 #140

I wonder who Clooney will MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #145

Also, I don't think it's out of line to wonder what kind of agenda Clooney has. shrike3 Jul 2024 #148

I remember that and shame in him kimbutgar Jul 2024 #26

Oh so that's why he did the massive fund raiser for the President even more recently. Got it. themaguffin Jul 2024 #29

I know. I got a text on Jul 3. Article is from June 6. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #54

Of Course This Was a Revenge Move by Clooney n/t Indykatie Jul 2024 #36

The opinions of actors mean very little to me. yardwork Jul 2024 #41

Agreed. Behind the Aegis Jul 2024 #53

If someone wants to play in the big leagues dlk Jul 2024 #48

Agreed. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #147

Yup, this has Amal written all over it. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #49

Why lose one vote when you can influence losing hundreds? Turbineguy Jul 2024 #51

I got text from Robert De Niro and George Clooney on Jul 3 LeftInTX Jul 2024 #52

If that's the case he's dumber than I thought BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #56

Yes. BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #61

Take no one at face value!! Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #62

Are we going to assign evil motive to everyone who we disagree with? BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #75

They can MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #150

Whose opinions can be shared, then? BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #153

Looks more like fundamental differences over matters war crimes and genocide malaise Jul 2024 #76

On the upside BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #79

An alternative theory is that he watched the debate. GumboYaYa Jul 2024 #80

another rich man pushing his weight around bigtree Jul 2024 #82

So you speculate Clooney joined the calls from some for Biden to drop out TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #84

I wouldn't doubt it. NT Patton French Jul 2024 #86

;-( elleng Jul 2024 #102

Oh god. Clooney is not petty like that. He is concerned. applegrove Jul 2024 #105

Maybe Amal pressured him flamingdem Jul 2024 #119

They are not petty people. They are human rights defenders. applegrove Jul 2024 #123

That doesn't make them smart about US politics flamingdem Jul 2024 #127

Sure, just put the blame on the woman. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #125

President Biden correctly criticized Clooney's wife for supporting Hamas terrorists LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #106

If that's the case, then why did Clooney throw his massive fundraiser weeks AFTER pnwmom Jul 2024 #120

Jesus Fucking Christ. She does not "support Hamas terrorists". muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #130

This type of reaction and conspiracy does not help Biden JI7 Jul 2024 #143

Were you at the LA fundraiser? nbsmom Jul 2024 #144

As far as I am concerned, Mr. Clooney should stick to his day job. LisaL Jul 2024 #152

I assume the people who want his money TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #158

I am not one of those people. LisaL Jul 2024 #160

Nor am I TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #161

As far as I am concerned, what they are doing is going to get Trump elected. LisaL Jul 2024 #162

No idea! TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #164

Hey Butthurt Clooney Miami Blue Jul 2024 #159

what's ugly is your comment eShirl Jul 2024 #169

Good grief, is everything a conspiracy or a grudge with you people?!? ClickClack Jul 2024 #167

I don't buy it. Clooney has been solid on our side. Groundhawg Jul 2024 #176

I don't agree with Clooney but Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #177

Bugger off, George BoRaGard Jul 2024 #178

It seems to me Clooney was just in it for the glory? pwb Jul 2024 #179