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In reply to the discussion: Will the Ivy League schools make it through the on-line education scams? [View all]TM99
(8,352 posts)A diploma mill actually does mean something. It is an unaccredited institution. Often there is not a physical location just a PO Box. It often does not require classes but merely accepts cash directly for a degree based on 'life experience' or a short paper on a topic. There are hundreds of these online ranging from Bible colleges to 'alternative' health programs like the now defunct Clayton College.
The University of Phoenix is NOT a diploma mill. I paid for real classes which I attended for several years. I had approved internships at places as diverse as the Arizona State Mental Hospital to Jewish Family & Children Services. I had professors from a variety of settings and educational backgrounds depending upon the degree. From a psychologist who specialized in CBT and was educated at UCLA to an economics professor who was educated at Northwestern and also taught at Thunderbird.
Being CACREP accredited, I had no problems after my coursework with passing the National Clinical Mental Health Counseling Examination . My degree was as valid as any others regionally accredited degree, and with my 3.98 GPA, internship references, and Certified Clinical Mental Health Counselor (CCMHC) credentials, I had no problems getting in to a competitive doctoral program, completing my coursework, internships, and getting licensed.
So, if you want to argue that it like just about every other college & university in the last decade now provides diplomas with outrageous levels of taxpayer funded student loans, then sure, let's talk about that. If you want to discuss howl the sociopathy of corporate America has taken over education at the undergraduate and graduate levels, then sure, let's talk about that. I received my degrees almost 30 years ago, and much has changed since then.
Educational expenses have grown to be outrageous. Student Loan policies and procedures are draconian and a new form of usury. And with the rise of the internet, there are, as I said, a lot of real diploma mills not worth a damn. For more information on this, go here:
http://www2.ed.gov/students/prep/college/diplomamills/diploma-mills.html
But please stop muddying a legitimate discussion about the problems with higher education in the US right now and discussions about online education with emotional hyperbole and inaccurate information.