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Sympthsical

(10,975 posts)
99. Nominations have always been determined by money
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 10:19 AM
Jul 2024

If you don't have financial backers, your chances of landing a presidential nomination in a major party is just about zero.

Is it right? No.

Is it our system? Always been. Every major candidate we've ever had is determined by the amount of money they can solicit. No one goes to Silicon Valley for fun. It's very dull there.

Is it weird people are mad about it now that it may be affecting things in a way they don't like but were extremely chill with when donors made these decisions in ways that aided the candidates they preferred in previous races?

Well, it's a bit precious.

It's not blackmail. It's just now that it's cutting in a way disliked, everyone's, I guess, pretending they didn't know this is how all this worked and that every major candidate has always had this sort of thing going on?

Ok, I guess we're pretending that now. Sure.

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Only 90 millions? LisaL Jul 2024 #1
We don't need their filthy money. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #2
You do not speak for the campaign. former9thward Jul 2024 #16
So for that money, we should sell our president down the river? LisaL Jul 2024 #23
Who is "we"? former9thward Jul 2024 #32
Did you not read the article? LisaL Jul 2024 #35
You really think the Biden campaign does not need money? former9thward Jul 2024 #43
But for Biden campaign to get this money, Biden has to step down. LisaL Jul 2024 #45
The money goes to PACs, not the campaign itself. former9thward Jul 2024 #50
Again, the condition to get this 90 millions is to force Biden out. LisaL Jul 2024 #52
BLACKMAIL! Peacetrain had it right. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #76
You aren't making sense. edisdead Jul 2024 #74
I am confused. edisdead Jul 2024 #73
"... donors told the largest pro-Biden super PAC, Future Forward, they would would not produce $90 million ..." sl8 Jul 2024 #92
They are promising to NOT give it to him unless he quits, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #75
I believe the funds will go to the nominee if Biden quits. It won't go to Biden. The funds are going to a super PAC. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #110
Hell Oooo - they are not giving the $$ to Biden, they want him out. we can do it Jul 2024 #80
It's IF we throw Biden overboard. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #97
Remove Tilson from the pac. Tilson does not speak for me. Why can he control the money ???he sounds like a bad evil man. Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #28
The campaign will get what they need easy enough... FarPoint Jul 2024 #64
No, it doesn't work that way in real life. former9thward Jul 2024 #66
ok. We all gon die then. edisdead Jul 2024 #77
Reality is reality. former9thward Jul 2024 #113
We will be fine....Biden/Harris big win in November FarPoint Jul 2024 #89
Ohhh well then that makes it alright to sell democracy down the drain. edisdead Jul 2024 #72
Whose campaign wants and needs the 90M if Biden/Harris step down? Are you psychic? we can do it Jul 2024 #78
uh, no, making a personal choice what to spend your money on is not "blackmail". Takket Jul 2024 #3
Seems like they are withholding money unless LisaL Jul 2024 #6
Strikes me as really similar to a boycott. n/t Igel Jul 2024 #56
we can agree to disagree about that.. this is the definition I used Peacetrain Jul 2024 #8
Dictionary definitions are irrelevant. Federal law defines blackmail narrowly. onenote Jul 2024 #115
I'll take the 200+ Million in the bank with Biden/Harris they will lose. A big part of me is in that total. So FUCK EM texasfiddler Jul 2024 #4
Ya, pretty much. Blackmail sounds right. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #5
How bout us little people band together and boycott these peoples' then? we can do it Jul 2024 #7
90 millions isn't even that much. LisaL Jul 2024 #10
How about we sue these bastards ?????? They are evil !!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #30
Sue them for what? MichMan Jul 2024 #59
Another nay sayer trying to negate OUR VOTE. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #9
Thank you.. I do not know how the heck I missed this story today or put 2 and 2 together Peacetrain Jul 2024 #13
I used to give to other Democrats. Not anymore, I will give to Biden/Harris exclusively until this shit ends. texasfiddler Jul 2024 #11
That is exactly what I am doing right now. Hakeem Jeffries better JohnSJ Jul 2024 #18
Right. After that speech tonight in Detroit yorkster Jul 2024 #85
My plan exactly. No money from me until I get a statement of support for Biden. shrike3 Jul 2024 #81
As was apparent, this has zero to do with Biden or his age. live love laugh Jul 2024 #12
That was just about the first thing that crossed my mind when the story finally clicked with me Peacetrain Jul 2024 #21
I blame a lot of this crap on Carville. He should not be privy to JohnSJ Jul 2024 #14
Many "old school" democrats BunkieBandit Jul 2024 #61
Without a doubt. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #62
Here's an easy one to boycott- Whitney Tilson- investment "research" scam newsletter. we can do it Jul 2024 #15
It sure sounds like he thinks he can order everyone around because he is rich. LisaL Jul 2024 #17
I take it as a challenge. Qutzupalotl Jul 2024 #19
If everybody donates, for sure we can raise 90 millions. LisaL Jul 2024 #26
Money is god. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #20
I think this money comes back after both conventions when Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #24
He probably sold out his party, president and country for a lot less than that. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #39
It still doesn't make sense. Himes is running for his 9th term in a safe district. unblock Jul 2024 #51
FUCK THEM bluestarone Jul 2024 #25
Before this day ends I will be donating to Bidens campaign. Butterflylady Jul 2024 #27
one notices the article does not include a list of all of those donors nt msongs Jul 2024 #29
The article does have a name. LisaL Jul 2024 #31
one but not all. only one? not credible nt msongs Jul 2024 #36
I guess Whitney is their spokesperson. LisaL Jul 2024 #40
Mike Novogratz is someone who is behind this push to oust Biden MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #70
What are they afraid of? Do they have some insider information on something Joe has planned for a second brewens Jul 2024 #33
They don't want to pay taxes edisdead Jul 2024 #82
So who is their favorite candidate? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #34
NO ONE..... FarPoint Jul 2024 #42
If there was one very ambitious person stirring up the pot, Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #48
It appears to be Trump edisdead Jul 2024 #83
I think you may be correct. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #90
I honestly don't believe it... FarPoint Jul 2024 #37
People selling out for cash makes more sense than anything else at this point. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #44
Well... FarPoint Jul 2024 #47
This is the next step to see if this hypotheses has merit. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #49
That's what Elon Musk called it when advertisers said they would not advertise on Twitter Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #38
It's just politics. You know, the blackmail part of politics. dchill Jul 2024 #41
so you want a convicted con man to run the country again. up yours. AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #46
i was hoping to get ultra big money out of the political game but along comes citzen united enabled by AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #53
It's looks like Biden signaled the big bucks Democratic party donor class he wouldn't go along with a lot of sop Jul 2024 #54
Ohhhh now that starts to make sense.. Peacetrain Jul 2024 #55
Trump tax cuts for the rich don't expire, it's the ones for regular folks Deminpenn Jul 2024 #103
The top individual tax rate will revert to pre-TCJA levels after 2025: 39.6% sop Jul 2024 #107
Whitney Tilson says no to Kamala Harris? So I looked him up. CoopersDad Jul 2024 #57
Complains that she'd be shoved down our throats, while trying to shove his demands down our throats. Mister Ed Jul 2024 #91
Now that Biden has total immunity for official presidential acts, Deminpenn Jul 2024 #105
Dirty $&@!! tazkcmo Jul 2024 #58
This tilson guy said this... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #60
The amount of arrogance in his statement is astounding. LisaL Jul 2024 #67
It shows why Citizens United should be repealed. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #63
it shows why we need a wealth tax in this country DBoon Jul 2024 #87
Suggest they donate to Democrats running for Congress instead. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #65
These people should keep their money. LisaL Jul 2024 #68
This only makes me dig in my heels for Biden even more. madibella Jul 2024 #69
No. Not even remotely close. Bonx Jul 2024 #71
Sorry, anyone here that thinks this is even 1% okay or reasonable is a moron. Voters over donors. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #79
Well, fuck them, then. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #84
Well, Biden got over 80 million votes in 2020. Sogo Jul 2024 #86
Don't know if it's blackmail wryter2000 Jul 2024 #88
How is that blackmail? It's their money. Kaleva Jul 2024 #93
"I won't spend my money unless I get what I want" is not blackmail Shrek Jul 2024 #94
What would be illegal about it? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #95
I saw that article and immediately donated another $500 CarlYasutomo Jul 2024 #96
bribery if anti-Biden pols accept the money bigtree Jul 2024 #98
Nominations have always been determined by money Sympthsical Jul 2024 #99
But in this case, nomination have already been determined. LisaL Jul 2024 #101
The donors feel it hasn't Sympthsical Jul 2024 #106
They are misinformed if they feel that can control the convention. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #109
Oh, probably Sympthsical Jul 2024 #111
It appears like "blackmail" or "bribes", but it is legal. Boycotts are also legal. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #112
Biden has more than the required number of pledged delegates needed for the nomination. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #108
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #100
Yes it is, and that this is not a violation of campaign finance laws seems very wrong. Big money is bribing JohnSJ Jul 2024 #102
This has the feel of Mme. Defarge Jul 2024 #104
Answer: no brooklynite Jul 2024 #114
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