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brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
25. When you're done embarrasing yourself
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:48 PM
Dec 2012

Both the paper and the article identified all that for you, already.

You're probably the only one here incapable of actually comprehending that the article and the paper both make a strong argument that Monsanto does indeed have monopoly/market power and has abused it.



So did DOJ make a reasonable decision in dropping its investigation of Monsanto and the broader seed market? It's impossible to say, given that it refuses to release any details.

But there is evidence of potential market power in the industry. For example, one sign of an uncompetitive industry is the ability to raise prices at will, unimpeded by price pressure from rivals. It's impossible to say, without more information, if the GMO giants have done that—but prices have risen briskly over the past decade. In her above-mentioned 2009 paper, the American Antitrust Institute's Moss points out that in truly competitive markets, "technologies that enjoy widespread and rapid adoption"—like GM seeds—"typically experience precipitous declines" in price. But between 2000 and 2008, Moss writes, "real seed costs [for farmers] increased by an average annual rate of five percent for corn, almost 11 percent for cotton, and seven percent for soybeans." And for most of those years, she adds, growth in the price farmers were receiving for their crops didn't match growth in the price they were paying for their seeds—suggesting a possible squeeze on farmers by the seed industry. Figures supplied me by the Center for Food Safety's Bill Freese (from USDA data) show that price increases have continued in the years since Moss' study.

There's also evidence that farmers lack access to lower-priced seeds. In 2010, University of Illinois researcher Michael Gray surveyed farmers in seven agriculture-intensive counties of Illinois. He asked them if they had access to high-quality corn seeds that weren't genetically modified to contain Monsanto's Bt insecticide trait. In all seven counties, at least 32 percent of farmers said "no." In one county, 46.6 percent of farmers reporting having no access to high-quality non-Bt seed. For them, apparently, they had little choice but to pay Monsanto's high prices for Bt seeds, whether they needed them or not.

Finally, a competitive market might be expected to be characterized by a high level of innovation—especially a market as high tech as GM seeds. But as the Center for Food Safety's Freese pointed out to me, the main GM traits we see in the field today are the same as those we saw in the 1990s, when GMOs were rolled out: herbicide resistance and Bt. The industry's much-heralded next big products—corn and soy engineered to withstand more toxic herbicides than Monsanto's Roundup—is really just more of the same, intensified: herbicide resistance on steroids. Monsanto did roll out a "drought-resistant" corn variety last December—but the USDA itself, citing Monsanto's own data, found it to be rather underwhelming.

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Thus 2naSalit Dec 2012 #1
Can you point to any actual evidence of antitrust activity by Montsanto? msanthrope Dec 2012 #2
Try reading the article before commenting brentspeak Dec 2012 #4
I did. What would be the evidence of antitrust activity? Show me. Cut and paste, please. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #5
"Monsanto traits end up in 98 percent of the GM soybeans" brentspeak Dec 2012 #7
Okay--but you haven't identified how any of that is antitrust. msanthrope Dec 2012 #18
When you're done embarrasing yourself brentspeak Dec 2012 #25
Price increase does not mean you have antitrust activity. It can be a result of antitrust activity, msanthrope Dec 2012 #31
Are you presently applying for a legal job with Monsanto? brentspeak Dec 2012 #35
Ah--with no evidence, you switch to the ad hominem. Kindly tell us all your theory of antitrust msanthrope Dec 2012 #38
Is this similar to Microsoft and Apple, who together own almost 100% of software in the U.S.? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #41
Well, the problem is really the Robert's court--you have a series of decisions over the last 5 years msanthrope Dec 2012 #42
I see. But it IS suspicious that the DOJ didn't issue a statement and reasoning... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #43
Monsanto and DuPont have ongoing litigation-we're talking a billion $ judgment against DuPont. It's msanthrope Dec 2012 #46
Ok, cite chapter and verse how brentspeak Dec 2012 #64
read . nothing but bad about the M april Dec 2012 #27
I have no doubt. But we have a little thing our courts require: evidence. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #33
WTF!!! That'd be like appointing Insane Clown Posse as education czar! Initech Dec 2012 #3
Well, he had also worked for the USDA*** before Monsanto--although I think this highlights msanthrope Dec 2012 #6
Wrong. Taylor worked for Monsanto before joining the FDA and USDA brentspeak Dec 2012 #8
I meant FDA--which was his first job after passing the bar. Thank you for correcting me. Your time msanthrope Dec 2012 #9
You omitted the 10 year gap between 3 and 4 nt One of the 99 Dec 2012 #11
His work at a non-profit, or on behalf of African agriculture doesn't fit within the narrative. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #20
I did fail to mention Taylor's acting as a go-between brentspeak Dec 2012 #28
Sadly fits right in with promoting Monsanto's interests. Overseas Dec 2012 #37
It should be noted that he left Monsanto in 2000 One of the 99 Dec 2012 #10
Here's your ten years of Taylor's innocuous-sounding non-profit activites: brentspeak Dec 2012 #29
potential? This conflicts directly with our basic rights. Al Gore should be appointed, not a person robinlynne Dec 2012 #17
Well, he left Monsanto over a decade ago to join a non-profit. And Al Gore? His money came from msanthrope Dec 2012 #19
Al Gore's policies are Democratic. Al Gore's policies are correct. as per food, and environment. robinlynne Dec 2012 #47
Indeed, but they evolved. At one time, Senator Gore's stance on tobacco msanthrope Dec 2012 #50
monsanto....tobacco.....not even close. robinlynne Dec 2012 #53
Indeed. When you stack up the deaths due to tobacco, I msanthrope Dec 2012 #54
backwards baby. very backwards. Smoking is like eating at McDonald's,a choice. robinlynne Dec 2012 #59
Seconhand smoke recipients made that choice? Yeah. You might wanna msanthrope Dec 2012 #60
no. In fact second hand smoke has never caused cancer. Monsanto has. robinlynne Dec 2012 #65
All righty then!!! nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #66
you have a problem with juggalos in a position of power? dionysus Dec 2012 #12
Fucking magnets - how do they work!!! Initech Dec 2012 #23
just keep them away from the soup (bloop) dionysus Dec 2012 #26
... progressoid Dec 2012 #14
done Berlum Dec 2012 #13
Done. n/t onestepforward Dec 2012 #15
I'm not the least bit surprised. obxhead Dec 2012 #16
Monsanto has tentacles deep into the Obama White House. bvar22 Dec 2012 #21
Thank you. I wish the ties with Monsanto were not so strong. Privatizing the very seeds we use to Overseas Dec 2012 #39
Myth 2: Monsanto will sue you for growing their patented GMOs if traces of those GMOs entered your f Captain Spaulding Dec 2012 #51
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #56
Reader comments correctly identified the NPR article as pro-Monsanto propaganda brentspeak Dec 2012 #58
Yes. LWolf Dec 2012 #48
The appointment of "Mr Monsanto" .... bvar22 Dec 2012 #49
Bill Gates (a Dem funder) also has deep ties to Monsanto. So there is a complex of interests HiPointDem Dec 2012 #62
election loss hit ya hard, huh brent... dionysus Dec 2012 #22
You Better Believe It!! nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #32
If the re-election means that Monsanto continues to.. bvar22 Dec 2012 #45
Not really, since I voted for Obama brentspeak Dec 2012 #52
Signed K&R bahrbearian Dec 2012 #24
Monsanto is an evil company. airplaneman Dec 2012 #30
I have no doubt some of their business practices are unethical--but do they rise to msanthrope Dec 2012 #34
It becomes difficult to do anything illegal when your lobbyist and lawyers write the laws TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #55
as a liberal I think we need to fight for laws that are fair to society as a whole. airplaneman Dec 2012 #57
I agree completely. The Robert's Court has changed antitrust litigation, and not for the better. msanthrope Dec 2012 #61
Kinda like appointing Tony Soprano Secretary of the Treasury. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #36
Thanks for posting. I have signed with hope that thousands more will too. Overseas Dec 2012 #40
Impeach him! great white snark Dec 2012 #44
Taylor's ties to monsanto go way back. Within years of his graduation he was working for HiPointDem Dec 2012 #63
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