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In reply to the discussion: Jan. 10, 2010: Obama appoints Monsanto V.P. Michael Taylor as Food Safety Czar [View all]brentspeak
(18,290 posts)25. When you're done embarrasing yourself
Both the paper and the article identified all that for you, already.
You're probably the only one here incapable of actually comprehending that the article and the paper both make a strong argument that Monsanto does indeed have monopoly/market power and has abused it.
So did DOJ make a reasonable decision in dropping its investigation of Monsanto and the broader seed market? It's impossible to say, given that it refuses to release any details.
But there is evidence of potential market power in the industry. For example, one sign of an uncompetitive industry is the ability to raise prices at will, unimpeded by price pressure from rivals. It's impossible to say, without more information, if the GMO giants have done thatbut prices have risen briskly over the past decade. In her above-mentioned 2009 paper, the American Antitrust Institute's Moss points out that in truly competitive markets, "technologies that enjoy widespread and rapid adoption"like GM seeds"typically experience precipitous declines" in price. But between 2000 and 2008, Moss writes, "real seed costs [for farmers] increased by an average annual rate of five percent for corn, almost 11 percent for cotton, and seven percent for soybeans." And for most of those years, she adds, growth in the price farmers were receiving for their crops didn't match growth in the price they were paying for their seedssuggesting a possible squeeze on farmers by the seed industry. Figures supplied me by the Center for Food Safety's Bill Freese (from USDA data) show that price increases have continued in the years since Moss' study.
There's also evidence that farmers lack access to lower-priced seeds. In 2010, University of Illinois researcher Michael Gray surveyed farmers in seven agriculture-intensive counties of Illinois. He asked them if they had access to high-quality corn seeds that weren't genetically modified to contain Monsanto's Bt insecticide trait. In all seven counties, at least 32 percent of farmers said "no." In one county, 46.6 percent of farmers reporting having no access to high-quality non-Bt seed. For them, apparently, they had little choice but to pay Monsanto's high prices for Bt seeds, whether they needed them or not.
Finally, a competitive market might be expected to be characterized by a high level of innovationespecially a market as high tech as GM seeds. But as the Center for Food Safety's Freese pointed out to me, the main GM traits we see in the field today are the same as those we saw in the 1990s, when GMOs were rolled out: herbicide resistance and Bt. The industry's much-heralded next big productscorn and soy engineered to withstand more toxic herbicides than Monsanto's Roundupis really just more of the same, intensified: herbicide resistance on steroids. Monsanto did roll out a "drought-resistant" corn variety last Decemberbut the USDA itself, citing Monsanto's own data, found it to be rather underwhelming.
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Jan. 10, 2010: Obama appoints Monsanto V.P. Michael Taylor as Food Safety Czar [View all]
brentspeak
Dec 2012
OP
I did. What would be the evidence of antitrust activity? Show me. Cut and paste, please. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#5
Price increase does not mean you have antitrust activity. It can be a result of antitrust activity,
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#31
Ah--with no evidence, you switch to the ad hominem. Kindly tell us all your theory of antitrust
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#38
Is this similar to Microsoft and Apple, who together own almost 100% of software in the U.S.?
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#41
Well, the problem is really the Robert's court--you have a series of decisions over the last 5 years
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#42
I see. But it IS suspicious that the DOJ didn't issue a statement and reasoning...
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#43
Monsanto and DuPont have ongoing litigation-we're talking a billion $ judgment against DuPont. It's
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#46
I have no doubt. But we have a little thing our courts require: evidence. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#33
Well, he had also worked for the USDA*** before Monsanto--although I think this highlights
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#6
I meant FDA--which was his first job after passing the bar. Thank you for correcting me. Your time
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#9
His work at a non-profit, or on behalf of African agriculture doesn't fit within the narrative. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#20
potential? This conflicts directly with our basic rights. Al Gore should be appointed, not a person
robinlynne
Dec 2012
#17
Well, he left Monsanto over a decade ago to join a non-profit. And Al Gore? His money came from
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#19
Al Gore's policies are Democratic. Al Gore's policies are correct. as per food, and environment.
robinlynne
Dec 2012
#47
backwards baby. very backwards. Smoking is like eating at McDonald's,a choice.
robinlynne
Dec 2012
#59
Thank you. I wish the ties with Monsanto were not so strong. Privatizing the very seeds we use to
Overseas
Dec 2012
#39
Myth 2: Monsanto will sue you for growing their patented GMOs if traces of those GMOs entered your f
Captain Spaulding
Dec 2012
#51
Reader comments correctly identified the NPR article as pro-Monsanto propaganda
brentspeak
Dec 2012
#58
Bill Gates (a Dem funder) also has deep ties to Monsanto. So there is a complex of interests
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#62
I have no doubt some of their business practices are unethical--but do they rise to
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#34
It becomes difficult to do anything illegal when your lobbyist and lawyers write the laws
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#55
as a liberal I think we need to fight for laws that are fair to society as a whole.
airplaneman
Dec 2012
#57
I agree completely. The Robert's Court has changed antitrust litigation, and not for the better.
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#61
Taylor's ties to monsanto go way back. Within years of his graduation he was working for
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#63