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garthranzz

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117. What This hasn't been banned by the sanctimonious jury panel?

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:07 PM

Dec 2012

To make it clear: I'm not sure - no one is - where the Arab Spring will lead - a fruitful harvest or a barren winter. But the hypocrites who condemn Israel - and only Israel - should look not only around and over their shoulders, but in the mirror. Hamas has more human rights violations in a day than Israel has in a decade. But, shush. Reality doesn't fit the anti-Semitic bias - and yes, condemnation of Israel - "let them go back to where they came from" (hmmm, dog-whistles works both ways, don't they). Criticism of a policy - fair game, just like criticism of any policy, even of positions and politicians one supports. But the false equivalency between what Hamas and Hezbollah and the Arabs are doing - to their own people as well as the Jews - and what Israel does to protect itself?

Shame on all of you.

(The Thought Police will be knocking on my door any minute.)

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Well, many here were so excited about the Arab Spring(!) and so you have it... [View all] PCIntern Dec 2012 OP

And there we have it Recursion Dec 2012 #1

There's that false equivalency again...pesky little devil... PCIntern Dec 2012 #5

That belongs to other countries? Aerows Dec 2012 #33

Or real life example close to home tama Dec 2012 #75

... Matariki Dec 2012 #125

I quote: JDPriestly Dec 2012 #82

I don't understand the tone of your post. rucky Dec 2012 #2

This is nature of democracy and revolutionary politics TomClash Dec 2012 #3

I agree Old and In the Way Dec 2012 #79

The poster is clear enough about his support for the JackRiddler Dec 2012 #81

Too bad there's no more "Shame On You" cards left in the deck. rucky Dec 2012 #109

this to will pass into the history books. madrchsod Dec 2012 #4

Way to jump the gun! pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #6

If I could summarize the OP in a few words (as if the avatar doesn't already): coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #11

um... you are aware that a shitload of Israelis ARE these brown people? ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #14

Jesus H. Christ, 20% of Israel's population is Arab. I have never been there, but coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #20

ok fine... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #23

No worries. I hope to visit Israel one day. Always wanted to try my hand at coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #26

What color will they be? Or will we have to invent a new one? pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #44

It's almost a truism among Marxist-Leninist critiques of capitalism that the coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #47

Black and White tama Dec 2012 #77

Gloating over misery and violence. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #7

It really bugs me how much of a theme that is here re: the Arab Spring Posteritatis Dec 2012 #72

Yeah, democracy sucks. bemildred Dec 2012 #8

Morsi agrees with you... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #10

What do you think about it? nt bemildred Dec 2012 #31

i think morsi made a big power grab after a little juice got going ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #35

No, about democracy, do you think democracy sucks? bemildred Dec 2012 #42

actually, yes, pure democracy sucks... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #93

I thought so. nt bemildred Dec 2012 #98

so... mob rule ... rules? i hope you don't live in the USA. ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #107

This place is named Democratic Underground. bemildred Dec 2012 #118

you have no idea what a pure democracy looks like ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #126

Well then, neither do you, for the same reason, so you don't know what you are talking about. nt bemildred Dec 2012 #127

ah, but I am not the one trying to defend it... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #128

No, you're trying to attack it, but you don't know what you're talking about. bemildred Dec 2012 #130

I'm disappointed Skidmore Dec 2012 #9

+1000 trumad Dec 2012 #15

+2000 pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #18

+3000 UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #89

+3000 LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #103

hate to disturb your doom and gloom but quinnox Dec 2012 #12

An Islamic theocracy is "moving along"? TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #88

What did you imagine they'd have? An atheist parliament? Nt DevonRex Dec 2012 #121

ummmmm, no TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #123

The reality is that they undoubtedly feel DevonRex Dec 2012 #124

Ya none of those people deserve life. aandegoons Dec 2012 #13

The Problem Is It Took Us Over Two Hundred Years To Build A Republic And Many Still Don't Like It DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2012 #16

Closer to eight hundred. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #70

Yeah, *some* people can't handle freedom. Barack_America Dec 2012 #17

If you ask Founding Fathers tama Dec 2012 #78

Congratulations to you too. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #19

Morsi isn't interested in an 'actual democracy' n/t B2G Dec 2012 #21

and Morsi is not the Arab Spring n/t Enrique Dec 2012 #29

He's the direct result of it. B2G Dec 2012 #39

so is Elbaradei Enrique Dec 2012 #45

Morsi won the election, the constitution will go to a popular vote. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #41

First off, this OP is disgusting...... marmar Dec 2012 #22

it sounds as if the OP wanted the status quo forever quinnox Dec 2012 #24

Cui bono? TomClash Dec 2012 #84

How many years was it after we declared ourselves independent with 'liberty for all' and grantcart Dec 2012 #25

And how many before that were needed to get the philosophical underpinnings in place? Posteritatis Dec 2012 #73

The beginnings of our democracy was a total mess & very complicated as well. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #27

Not to mention the present tama Dec 2012 #80

i think people were more realistic than that Enrique Dec 2012 #28

The majority of Arabs are Muslims and are anti-Israel FarCenter Dec 2012 #30

You're right. Those people needed to shut the fuck up and put up with their shitty conditions no Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2012 #32

Sorry but Israel's policies makes it a rogue nation. Ya Basta Dec 2012 #34

Horrible Post... Iggy Dec 2012 #36

its possible that the arab spring will help the region Mosby Dec 2012 #57

There's a depressingly large pile of people here who believe just that. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #71

Yeah, I see that Iggy Dec 2012 #83

The bar's certainly set with a shovel these days. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #85

We understand. The Arabs are sub-humans. alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #37

Submit. Obey. Do Not Question Authority! Do not rebel against tyranny. Zorra Dec 2012 #38

Apparently Personal Freedom is to be Enjoyed ONLY Iggy Dec 2012 #94

I was never too excited about the Arab spring, but I wish I could unrec your OP because it is bad. JVS Dec 2012 #40

Whew. Zionist tells it like he sees it. Thanks for the honesty. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #43

Classic hit and run post. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #46

Yes, I had noticed that a certain someone has gone conspicuously AWOL on this thread. Grr, that coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #48

What should piss you off PCIntern Dec 2012 #49

Can I be pissed off on both accounts? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #50

Hit and run? PCIntern Dec 2012 #51

radicals? a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #54

Well, as I said, I can be pissed by the Morsi abuses nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #55

can't both piss one off? Do you honestly support what Israel does vis a vis cali Dec 2012 #52

Somehow... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #56

North Africa is good pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #59

I haven't visited Africa in decades... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #60

It will be a BIG change for you pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #61

I sounds like it could be fun... but... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #63

Your failure to respond to pinboy3niner's substantive reply in post #6 ff. speaks coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #64

This OP makes DU suck RetroLounge Dec 2012 #53

Well, it's not over yet. But it doesn't look promising. Then again, is it worse than before... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #58

Let's put Mubarak back!!! JackRiddler Dec 2012 #62

Bring back Pharaoh! - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #65

I think that would be interesting. Still don't know how Belgium jumped into this discussion. freshwest Dec 2012 #92

Yeah, this was a classic 'hit and run' OP, as William Pitt observed. But had the OP coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #96

You know what? xfundy Dec 2012 #66

Somewhat clairvoyant... PCIntern Dec 2012 #68

Much like PCIntern, I saw this coming from a mile away as well TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #87

"The people there don't even cherish freedom as a value." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #111

Some do...and some don't. zellie Dec 2012 #113

And the irony was totally lost on this young lad zellie Dec 2012 #115

Freedom is a journey, not a destination. Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #67

The whole time I've mainly seen people desperately hoping for it to fall on its face. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #69

You should really stop for a minute and think about what you wrote Marrah_G Dec 2012 #74

He's a hit and run poster, without either the courage to defend his thesis, respond to his critics, coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #119

So we should continue to support despots? mahina Dec 2012 #76

ohfercrissake riverwalker Dec 2012 #86

What the hell? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #90

Oh look, an Israel fanatic who doesn't like the Arab Spring LittleBlue Dec 2012 #91

I fully expected this response, PCIntern Dec 2012 #95

remembering the Holocaust is righteous Enrique Dec 2012 #99

And what do you think you are doing to them? aandegoons Dec 2012 #101

"all I did was show up, and that was enough to be hated" WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #102

And Israel did a bit more than "just show up". Barack_America Dec 2012 #116

"among all the potential enemies," FarCenter Dec 2012 #104

"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing." ~ Albert Einstein Zorra Dec 2012 #110

I get that you're mourning the evil done to your ancestors. Barack_America Dec 2012 #112

That is incredibly insightful and honest zellie Dec 2012 #114

Your murdered forbearers do not justify what you posted. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #129

I don't get your point. Are you suggesting Arab countries are incapable morningfog Dec 2012 #97

I assume you read the draft Constitution? Coyotl Dec 2012 #100

Maybe the administration has decided Israel is not worth the backlash to the US. dkf Dec 2012 #105

Nothing in the Universe ends well, my friend... PCIntern Dec 2012 #106

Ah.... The Arab Spring zellie Dec 2012 #108

What This hasn't been banned by the sanctimonious jury panel? garthranzz Dec 2012 #117

You have conveniently forgotten what Israel did to one of its own dissidents, Mordechai coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #120

what "the Arabs" are doing Enrique Dec 2012 #122