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Ms. Toad

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60. Well, that is extremely premature. You can't replace someone who has not yet been named.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 11:51 PM
Jul 2024

Until after the convention (or such other means by which the Democratic party chooses its nominee), Biden isn't being replaced - because he is not yet named. I have not heard anyone suggest waiting until after the convention to dump Biden. All of the discussion - and the multiple threads on this topic (including the discussion in this thread) is focused on switching candidates now, before the convention - and people engaged in the discussion are using "replacing" Biden as if naming a different person at the convention (or before) is "replacing" him. It's not, from the perspective of the applicable laws.

But that is what the scary laws being cited address - an after-convention switch.

As for Ohio, the law is effective on the date it needs to be in order for the Democratic Party to submit its candidate after the convention. There is no leeway for error, however, since it becomes effective on the new due date for the party's nomination: September 1. It is not necessary to hold a remote roll call, but given the tight timing it is certainly not unreasonable.

And I'm not disputing that there will be litigation this election season.

What I'm addressing is the repeated inappropriate use in this thread - and many others - to refer to the scenario currently being discussed - naming a candidate other than Biden at the convention (or via an earlier roll call vote) - as a scare tactic against those who believe Biden should step aside. As I said, I haven't heard a single person suggesting waiting until after the convention to name someone else (which is when the statutes regarding changing a candidate might have an impact.

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they obviously don't think they can win on the issues. got to keep Dems/abortion off the ballot BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #1
Right-Wingers Plan to Make it Difficult for Democrats to Replace Biden LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #2
What coincidence....Actually, a bit ahead of schedule. haele Jul 2024 #3
Yep. It's a trap, and we're walking right into it. shrike3 Jul 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #5
+2 Emile Jul 2024 #42
Democrats Might Not Be Able to Replace Joe Biden on Ballot in These States LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #6
Then It's Settled.. PJB is our Guy & Cha Jul 2024 #33
Abbott will write an executive order demanding the use of the word "Elector" in place of a name. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #7
I know Greg and Ken Paxton LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #14
100% absolutely. And will use the term "Democrat Party" in his EO. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #15
The Democrats cannot afford to write off Nevada, Wisconsin and Georgia LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #8
We can't afford to write off any state! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #10
which is why the party will nominate Joe Biden later this month MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #40
But I thought Biden had "weathered the storm" and the GOP and "corporate media" Azathoth Jul 2024 #9
Strategic lawsuits can have ulterior motives LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #11
They should change the GOP mascot to Wile E. Coyote. tanyev Jul 2024 #12
How are any ballots locked in Zeitghost Jul 2024 #13
They will use lawsuits... LeftInTX Jul 2024 #16
The nominee coming out of the convention will be on every ballot in the country Zeitghost Jul 2024 #22
Abbott can write an EO. You don't know the guy. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #24
They can try Zeitghost Jul 2024 #26
Who would stop Abbott??? Name someone or an agency or group LeftInTX Jul 2024 #31
Exactly, Ohio had the furthest up deadline, but even they switched their deadline to August 31 after DeWine called Celerity Jul 2024 #34
State law governs the election and yes, names are required in TX... Zeitghost Jul 2024 #44
Abbott can override state law. He has done it before. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #45
Then why hasn't he kept Dems off the ballot yet? Zeitghost Jul 2024 #46
In every other race, we vote for the candidate. President is the only race where we vote for the "elector" LeftInTX Jul 2024 #48
How many Democratic Nominees (or any major party nominees) Zeitghost Jul 2024 #49
Always a first time for everything. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #50
There have been issues Zeitghost Jul 2024 #52
Have you met the Roberts Court? RockRaven Jul 2024 #29
If they're not cheating, they're not trying. czarjak Jul 2024 #17
A caller on Thom Hartmann's show said this the other day. Jeebo Jul 2024 #18
Ok I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2024 #19
So I flick on the tv for a moment and there's Michael Moore, concerned about Biden's incapacity... Hekate Jul 2024 #20
Ayman and Michael Moore are assholes LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #21
Yes, yes they are. God help us all. Hekate Jul 2024 #25
Here's a thread on Moore you might Appreciate, Hekate.. Cha Jul 2024 #35
Thanks, Cha Hekate Jul 2024 #36
Hey Heritage Foundation - the White House is not your plaything! Initech Jul 2024 #23
Cool, let them litigate what won't happen. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #27
I thought GOPers wanted Biden off ballot. Guess not. Silent Type Jul 2024 #28
This is totally moot. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #32
I'm pretty sure none of the deadlines have passed for the major parties to name their candidates. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #37
Nevada, Georgia and Wisconsin may be real problems LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #55
Nope. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #56
The lawyers representing the GOP and the Heritage Foundation disagree with your claim LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #57
All of the hard deadlines were dealt with prior to the current kerfluffle. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #58
The topic of this thread was the Heritage Foundation planned litigation if President Biden is replaced as the nominee LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #59
Well, that is extremely premature. You can't replace someone who has not yet been named. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #60
Neither I nor the DNC agree with your analysis LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #61
Again. You can't change, or replace, something that does not yet exist. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #62
I live in the real world where sematic games are dismissed as silly LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #63
Just like the midterms...they declared a red wave, we all know how that turned out. PortTack Jul 2024 #38
Won't the Biden nomination at the Democratic Convention in Chicago prevent state ballot court battles? ancianita Jul 2024 #39
A-holes BoRaGard Jul 2024 #41
File away comrades ucrdem Jul 2024 #43
What's conveniently missing from every elected official's statement calling for Biden to dropout. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #47
My nieghbor down the block... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #51
Hope they spent retainer money already Captain Zero Jul 2024 #53
MAGAs Have a Plan Ready to Keep Any Replacement Off Ballots in November LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #54
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