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In reply to the discussion: Stop Telling Women How to Not Get Raped [View all]redqueen
(115,164 posts)148. *sigh*
Logic just goes right out the window, doesn't it?
po·ten·tial (p -t n sh l). adj. 1. Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem. 2. Having possibility, capability, or power
I am capable of jumping off of this building. I am capable of shoving a box of business cards in my mouth. I am capable of jumping over the desk and attacking the next person who walks through the door.
Will I do it? No, probably not. Just as you probably won't rape a MAN. The likelihood of either of us doing these things is infinitesimal. But they are still potential actions that we are both capable of doing.
Does that clear it up?
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But if men stopped raping then women wouldn't get so many lectures and blame-the-victim anymore.
Quantess
Jan 2012
#1
Indeed. I'm all for teaching basic safety and awareness, which are good things for everyone to learn
arcane1
Jan 2012
#2
can you point me somewhere reputable and non-anectdotal where the existence of date-rape is...
ret5hd
Jan 2012
#28
well, just point me towards your best source, the on most likely to make me say...
ret5hd
Jan 2012
#34
1 & 2 are completely anecdotal...a crackpot ga rep and a govt justice employee do not constitute...
ret5hd
Jan 2012
#40
this article does not speak to denial of date rape, but to minimalizing the crime.
ret5hd
Jan 2012
#43
Not that the FBI is particularly "reputable," but they didn't admit there was such a thing
Tansy_Gold
Jan 2012
#168
It's so weird isn't it? For the longest time I felt that it was part of my role in life to
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#136
I agree. There is always value to teaching people how to avoid being victimized.
yellowcanine
Jan 2012
#11
Unfortunately people like the Dominique Strauss-Kahns of this world will never learn these lessons,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#5
they sexualized the girl while addressing rape. ONE of the many examples fed to our
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#94
how about if we simple change our language for our younger boys. make sure girl is enthusiastic
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#89
exactly allow a girl ownership of her sexuality. which is exactly opposite what society does today
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#96
First of all, unless you've been there, don't presume to know what it's like
Tansy_Gold
Jan 2012
#174
Excuse me? You're the one cursing and getting irrational. I don't need to know what it's like
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#175
in their mind, they are not interpreting it as rape. i dont know why people dont get this.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#200
i do not know what you are talking. i saw a bit on a thread. seduction has never worked for me.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#206
ya. that. eeew. it was in all the movies. it always made me uncomfortable. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#211
one is either a rapist or not rapist. and if one is a rapist one is deviant - regardless of
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#222
uh, you are the one asserting that there is a third category (outside of rapist or not rapist),
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#233
seriously, can't you whittle this down to a succinct statement? like, two to three
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#243
this is the problem and the refusal to allow this concept to be realized. for whatever reason, this
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#219
i think this should be the conversation, the starting point, in the next thread. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#221
Because "assholes who rape" will stop being assholes if only they knew better?
mistertrickster
Jan 2012
#67
you are more concerned about the rad fems than girls/women being raped. and a boys/mans life ruined
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#91
i have a couple sons. i have a couple of nieces. you can damn well bet have discussed ownership
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#105
Looks to me like you're both telling me what I think and attacking me for it at the same time.
mistertrickster
Jan 2012
#65
i lived in reno, a 24 hour town, late shift. i went into bars alone. i had no problem, nor felt
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#124
get a girl drunk on a date, men pay for it one way or another, no doesnt mean no.... the simple
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#99
This bears repeating: "prevention in not really prevention; rather, it's risk reduction,"
Remember Me
Jan 2012
#241
Part of the response may be the caption - which wasn't limited to advertisements.
Ms. Toad
Jan 2012
#47
My daughters do not need ad campaigns, as I can provide them with basic, common sense advice myself.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#50
college campus's now have a team of jr and sr that goes to these parties to watch out for the
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#97
so much is about her own empowerment and confidence and that is gained in time.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#164
As part of every graduation gift for young women, I give them Gavin DeBecker's "The Gift of Fear"
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#229
I entirely agree with the concept, but seriously lack the faith in testosterone laden persons to
Lionessa
Jan 2012
#39
they are both very important things to teach - nevermind public service announcements
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#192
very good points. i do believe education (of boys and men) can prevent rapes
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#186
Great idea. Tell bankers not to foreclose on people's houses while you're at it. nt
mistertrickster
Jan 2012
#75
Lance, if you go back to the sex/women's issue threads of the past several weeks,
Occulus
Jan 2012
#135
It's not offensive and it's not wrong -- ALL WOMEN are potential false rape accusers
Tansy_Gold
Jan 2012
#137
Just to clarify -- You do understand the difference between "potential" and "future," don't you?
Tansy_Gold
Jan 2012
#193
this is the newest study and i cannot find others i have seen on this. it matters with study,
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#126
This article baldly states that "it's not effective" - any reason to believe that?
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2012
#63
Then those agencies are covering up a crime that should be prosecuted. nt
mistertrickster
Jan 2012
#74
I think you've obviously got the bona fides to show you know what you're talking about
lunatica
Jan 2012
#109
a very large group of boys/men you do not address are those that dont see rape, as rape.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#116
I am way late to this party. Busy few days, but have to add my "voice" of support. nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#165
I'm sorry but a lot of us men would never dream of forcing ourselves on a woman and find this
ddeclue
Jan 2012
#176
i married my friend. i have always liked nice guys, wont accept anything less in my life
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#182
As I posted above, I think the poster is frustrated by some bad experiences
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2012
#214
My rule is that she must be 1) more sober than me. 2) not have had more than 3 glasses of wine in
ddeclue
Jan 2012
#223
actually I am such an easy drunk (and I am a relatively big guy) that 2 or 3 glasses and I have a
ddeclue
Jan 2012
#226
that would be great if it wasn't ALWAYS the case. Women love to make friends with me.
ddeclue
Jan 2012
#225