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In reply to the discussion: The enshittification of politics [View all]usonian
(25,837 posts)14. Thanks for this long and thoughtful post.
A bit more:
https://democraticunderground.com/100219185477
Schumpeter at the economist.
Tech bros love J.D. Vance. Many CEOs are scared stiff
Both men are driven by grievances. Both are highly unpredictable. Yet for all the Ohioans twists and turns, his antipathy towards big business and his desire to break up big tech appear to run deep. That may make him harder to deal with than the transactional Mr Trump.
Their first gripe is over cryptocurrencies and the blockchain. (Regulation)
Next come concerns about Mr Bidens efforts to regulate artificial intelligence (ai). ... They say the order provides an unfair advantage to tech giants, which have vastly more resources to deal with red tape. (Both sides of the aisle have expressed concern)
The third, and most immediate, concern is Mr Bidens latest budget proposal, which includes a 25% tax on unrealised capital gains for those with over $100m of wealth. (Proposal)
Although bosses may like the sound of tax cuts and deregulation, they fear further descent into protectionism and political chaos. There are Mr Trumps tariff threats, echoed by Mr Vance, that risk inflaming trade wars, and the spectre of mass deportation of immigrants, which may exacerbate labour shortages. There is economic populism: Were done catering to Wall Street, Mr Vance thundered.
Their first gripe is over cryptocurrencies and the blockchain. (Regulation)
Next come concerns about Mr Bidens efforts to regulate artificial intelligence (ai). ... They say the order provides an unfair advantage to tech giants, which have vastly more resources to deal with red tape. (Both sides of the aisle have expressed concern)
The third, and most immediate, concern is Mr Bidens latest budget proposal, which includes a 25% tax on unrealised capital gains for those with over $100m of wealth. (Proposal)
Although bosses may like the sound of tax cuts and deregulation, they fear further descent into protectionism and political chaos. There are Mr Trumps tariff threats, echoed by Mr Vance, that risk inflaming trade wars, and the spectre of mass deportation of immigrants, which may exacerbate labour shortages. There is economic populism: Were done catering to Wall Street, Mr Vance thundered.
https://archive.ph/Tyofv or
https://www.economist.com/business/2024/07/17/tech-bros-love-jd-vance-many-ceos-are-scared-stiff
Tech Bro's have completely taken over the GOP.
Don't let it happen here!
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This was from a reply someone made at Hacker News.
The OP merely linked to the article at The Economist, and was flagged to oblivion in the VC-friendly forum.
I hope with all my heart that Joe and Kamala triumph over this "Chicken Coup" attempt.
Worst case, Joe might want to back off (for now) from the capital gains tax proposal, which seems to have the billioniaire class in a gunpowder plot. OR NOT.
To them I say:
OFF WITH THEIR HOODS!
The "ELEPHANT" in the room is that the conspirators, and the "billion dollar computer model" that said Joe would lose to this despicable piece of shit.

APPARENTLY DIDN'T COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE.
Oops, replace the leader with ABSOLUTELY NOBODY.
It's like shooting your horse and trying to win the race with a goat.
The value of data and projections is NOT the money you paid for them.
It's their predictive value, which you know the day after the election.
These are the only recognizable names I could imagine who have not committed 100% to Biden and Harris
Joe Manchin?
Stella Artois?
Mark Cuban?
LeBron James? ( oops, busy)
Merrick Garland?
Abigail Disney?
Michael Bloomberg?
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
And Kindly note that the support from Bernie Sanders and AOC AND Elizabeth Warren tells me
That this is right wing fuckery.
Do I want some unknown nominee?


Here's a fact:
When it comes to beating Trump ...

THAN BIDEN

And here's how to pass the torch.
WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE

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here is a list of thestrongly supportive pro crypto Dems in the Senate and the House (per a crypto advocacy group)
Celerity
Jul 2024
#128
Kyrsten Sinema will be gone but Ruben G. is running for her spot in the Senate and
ChazII
Jul 2024
#138
Excellent work, and vitally important to understand what the hell is going on.
msfiddlestix
Jul 2024
#5
Critically important! I am so appreciative of your time and effort putting this together, please k&r
Ninga
Jul 2024
#8
Who knows nowadays what is going on? But, it seems to me -- and I have not researched this -- that these donors were
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#12
We simply do not know. After reading this OP, I believe that in drivers of the anti Biden movement
Ninga
Jul 2024
#17
But, they were contributing and pledging right up until June 27th. Biden's contribution totals were great.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#21
The first article is about GOPer Billionaires helping trump. They were never going to help Biden.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#40
Looked again. Do not see the name of even one donor who was considered a big Democratic donor. The article
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#106
Give me just one name mentioned in the article of a Democratic donor that is switching to trump. Just one name.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#108
The SOU was to be an inflection point for the nullifiers. Biden ruined that.
Sneederbunk
Jul 2024
#51
So, if donors are supporting VP Harris or any other top Democrat, do they expect policies to change?
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#70
I have not heard any of these donors say they would not support Harris or some other top Democrat. Of course, I don't
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#78
I think the donors are solid Democrats as they were in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, and mid-term elections.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#90
They won't support Harris and likely believe she will lose...they want Trump and his yummy taxcuts.
Demsrule86
Jul 2024
#98
Oh sure, Democratic donors in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, up to June 2024, and mid-terms want trump.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#102
Most of that cash ends up in the hands of corporate media, including social media platforms.
dawg
Jul 2024
#13
I've been saying this for a while. But I'm just a little woman so few people take me seriously.
littlemissmartypants
Jul 2024
#24
Anyone who thinks that they wouldn't torpedo her just as fast if not faster is ill informed. ❤️
littlemissmartypants
Jul 2024
#85
The concepts are not mutually exclusive. In fact the similarities are remarkable.
littlemissmartypants
Jul 2024
#68
I know...it wasn't meaning that was mentioned. The word itself was though.
littlemissmartypants
Jul 2024
#63
Appreciate the compilation. I have followed this, may have even posted some of those.
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#30
Not only "extortion," but massive lobbying "investment" for whatever weakens a government they can then CAPTURE.
ancianita
Jul 2024
#33
Many tech bros claim to be Libertarian, too. Possibly the majority. nt
littlemissmartypants
Jul 2024
#44
Right. I'm aware. The through line of their ideologies is privatization and govt capture by tech bro power.
ancianita
Jul 2024
#64
You may be able to answer your own question if you go back and re-read the entire rationale.
Ninga
Jul 2024
#39
I agree- and I'll be watching to see if some of the more shocking Dem "Roll in the hay with the big donors" come back
NBachers
Jul 2024
#75
THIS is all we should be talking about. What to do about it, and sharing it far and wide. Nt
Ninga
Jul 2024
#37
We're in a position where arrogant idiots and tech bros control our Democracy. It's fucked.
Oneironaut
Jul 2024
#61
The Supremes said it was okay because they want their piece of the pie
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Jul 2024
#127
Republicans have been feeding oligarchs, and obstructing anything that would regulate them, for decades.
Hermit-The-Prog
Jul 2024
#66
Thanks. This is important information. Money is at the root of the Biden meltdown by the media, and some politicians
Demsrule86
Jul 2024
#93
Yep. This is why I call billionaires parasites and Wall Street people greed lizards. And this whole campaign thing is
PatrickforB
Jul 2024
#109
Bob Cesca raised some of these same points the other day on his podcast.
yellowdogintexas
Jul 2024
#117
So this is what Mark Cuban was referring to in his X post about Thiel's and Musk's plan to give millions to Trump.
Pepsidog
Jul 2024
#129
I did not misunderstand you to be saying Dems want Biden to lose. I just pointed out that some Donors also do not.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#160