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former9thward

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38. Yes they did.

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:27 PM

Dec 2012

The Chair of the Committee, Lee Hamilton, said Casey was in California when he supposedly was in Madrid for the 'surprise' meeting.

But you are good company: Supporters of Lyndon LaRouche continue to claim that the October Surprise conspiracy actually happened. Swedish prime minister Olof Palme's 1986 murder, on suspicion of which a Swedish extremist with LaRouche connections was initially arrested and released, has been attributed by LaRouche and former CIA agent Richard Brenneke to the P2 Masonic Lodge, which was involved, along with Gladio, in Italy's strategy of tension. According to this theory, Palme was murdered because he was against the deal between Iran and the Contras.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise_conspiracy_theory

No matter how many investigations take place and lead to dead ends some people just love conspiracy.

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Did the Reagan campaign make a deal with the Ayatollah? [View all] question everything Dec 2012 OP

Yup thelordofhell Dec 2012 #1

you realize that page is labeled "conspiracy theory." BainsBane Dec 2012 #49

I was always under the impression, LeftofObama Dec 2012 #2

or the Ayatollah just really hated Carter BainsBane Dec 2012 #51

yes graham4anything Dec 2012 #3

Yeah, see Argo and NOT learn the truth. Darth_Kitten Dec 2012 #34

They did say that some part were fictionalized for drama purpose question everything Dec 2012 #45

Probably at least I think so. I remember hearing that Arafat told Carter that Reagan cut a deal and craigmatic Dec 2012 #4

That is a prevalent theory. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #5

You should check out Barbara Honegger's book of the same title DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #12

Probably not. Deep13 Dec 2012 #6

I'm not so sure about that. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #11

No. Carter & his administration worked tirelessly in the final hours for a safe release... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #7

i recall hearing they were very close to a deal in october and they abrutly stopped talks unblock Dec 2012 #13

I think there were issues with the assets the government had originally frozen. Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #15

It's where the phrase "October Surprise" comes from... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #47

I've got a bridge........ WinkyDink Dec 2012 #18

So you think Carter did nothing to help release those hostages? Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #22

You are conflating two discrete occurrences. Yes, Carter worked at it; but yes, Reagan committed WinkyDink Dec 2012 #42

No I'm not. Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #44

The deal at the end didn't matter Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #48

Doubt it... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #54

I think you're missing the larger point... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #55

No I'm not. Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #57

It's not that Carter didn't do anything... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #58

Reagan interfered, but is not the reason those hostages were released... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #59

Well.... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #60

I don't believe it was Reagan himself, but his vp. Reagan himself wasn't smart enough graham4anything Dec 2012 #52

I think you"ve gotten this right. marybourg Dec 2012 #53

James Baker & the boyzzzz let him know he would get a "better deal" from St Ronnie SoCalDem Dec 2012 #8

Didn't Ollie North pretty much admit it? zbdent Dec 2012 #9

No, that was Iran-Contra Scootaloo Dec 2012 #28

gosh no, they released them in exchange for nothing because reagan talked tough! unblock Dec 2012 #10

And he made us feel good about ourselves... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #50

According to Gary Sick, Yasser Arafat, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr... Octafish Dec 2012 #14

Interesting. This means that the campaign was dealing in foreign policy question everything Dec 2012 #16

Look at Reagan's campaign staff Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #19

I Have Always Considered that A Fact, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #17

Republican treason against the USA Berlum Dec 2012 #20

further important info Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #21

Sure. Poppy was the point man. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #23

This is a conspiracy theory which really took off when the internet came into use. former9thward Dec 2012 #24

Have the congressional inquiries established the whereabouts of Bill Casey in 89/90?? Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #31

Yes they did. former9thward Dec 2012 #38

Ah.. The famous "Bohemian Grove alibi"... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #39

And some people just love to believe that the top-most power-players do not communicate with each WinkyDink Dec 2012 #43

I thought so, & there was evidence they did. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #25

I have always believed there was. liberal N proud Dec 2012 #26

Yes. Repukes have been getting away with treason since Doctor_J Dec 2012 #27

Yes. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #29

Probably. moondust Dec 2012 #30

yes, 'as if' reagan released the hostages. spanone Dec 2012 #37

Yes, which is why it was treason. He was not President when he did it. Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #32

Yes (See Iran-Contra). This is what happens when the powerful are above the law. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #33

Lyndon LaRouche and his followers started what came to be known as the "October Surprise" allegation NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #35

Not really. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #40

they did what they could to belittle Carter. they hated him. God forbid we have an honest politician spanone Dec 2012 #36

I don't know what it is about Carter. I idealize him, like he was the true thing. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #41

Evidence is largely circumstantial at best freethought Dec 2012 #46

Thoreau... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #56