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pat_k

(13,371 posts)
43. Understood.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:41 PM
Jul 2024

I hope others upset with the public statements don't harbor resentments.

I may be wrong, but I think most of the lawmakers who came out publicly did try to convey concerns privately through Jefferies and Schumer, and only came out publicly because concerns they believed were legitimate were brushed aside.

Perhaps it's a chicken egg sort of problem. Were the lawmakers giving voice to voter concerns, or did the public statements drive voter concerns? I think the former -- that
a significant portion of democratic voters had concerns that predated the debate and any public statements by lawmakers. The lack of enthusiasm for Biden (e.g., Biden polling behind Senate candidates) predated the debate. The heart-breaking debate ratcheted up concerns and the lawmakers gave voice to the concerns they were hearing/seeing, first within their respected caucuses, then in public statements.

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Agree Pat.... democratsruletheday Jul 2024 #1
A friend of mine is a delegate for MN pat_k Jul 2024 #19
It's the honeymoon phase. Just wait till the same media, right-wingers, Russian trolls, etc. that had it out for Biden.. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #2
As wonderful as Kamala is... pat_k Jul 2024 #7
Who is Wes Moore??? travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #10
Maryland Governor pat_k Jul 2024 #20
If political junkies on DU have to ask who he is, he's not ready for this. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #31
His real ratings on maryland are not great, in the short time he has been the thatdemguy Jul 2024 #39
Thanks for the deeper insight. pat_k Jul 2024 #59
They already are Rebl2 Jul 2024 #22
Exactly this moonscape Jul 2024 #48
Everyone I've talked to feels that we've now lost Bettie Jul 2024 #3
Seems to be based on age. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #9
My Millennial cohort is overwhelmingly enthusiastic Sympthsical Jul 2024 #15
Baby boomer for Kamala checking in! kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #29
Same here! COL Mustard Jul 2024 #32
Absolutely!! pat_k Jul 2024 #38
This older Democrat is relieved and enthusiastic, as is my older Democratic spouse. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #44
I'm just going on personal observations. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #61
I'm an older Democrat (70+)... doubleplusgood Jul 2024 #63
I disagree pat_k Jul 2024 #11
Actually, it's likely to be an ugly floor fight Bettie Jul 2024 #12
YEP Rebl2 Jul 2024 #23
You must not be watching MSNBC - they are overjoyed. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #24
With endorsements for Harris just pouring in. Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #40
Hopefully, your fear has been put to rest today pat_k Jul 2024 #64
I feel a bit better about it Bettie Jul 2024 #65
You're talking to people here who think that we haven't. meadowlander Jul 2024 #16
The enormous donations today indicate a different reality. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2024 #30
most of my crew feels the same edisdead Jul 2024 #35
everyone I talked to after the debate felt that way. quakerboy Jul 2024 #36
I can see the change in attitude here at DU Kaleva Jul 2024 #4
"Anyway, now that he has withdrawn, I assume the topic is no longer off limits." J_William_Ryan Jul 2024 #5
I disagree pat_k Jul 2024 #17
Enthusiasm or anger? Paula Sims Jul 2024 #6
ActBlue reported $27.5 million from small dollar donors in just the last 5 hours since the announcement. Raftergirl Jul 2024 #8
My 83 year-old step-father just made... pat_k Jul 2024 #18
Actblue Rebl2 Jul 2024 #27
I just donated $50 nt doc03 Jul 2024 #53
Agree Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #13
Hear, Hear!! pat_k Jul 2024 #21
torrent of enthusiasm with everyone backing a different candidate travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #14
I have faith the delegates will... pat_k Jul 2024 #25
That's not what I'm seeing. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2024 #28
Yes, I thought the "enthusiasm" would happen also. honest.abe Jul 2024 #26
Alert stalking was rampant Kaleva Jul 2024 #47
Yep. honest.abe Jul 2024 #49
Yes. We all need to focus on beating Trump Kaleva Jul 2024 #50
The evening news is all about people endorsing Harris. yardwork Jul 2024 #33
Was a bit crazy with the groupthink. Woodwizard Jul 2024 #34
The problem - at least for me - was that Democrats in Congress were *publicly* insisting Ocelot II Jul 2024 #37
Understood. pat_k Jul 2024 #43
I think it had reached critical mass when the media kept flogging the story Ocelot II Jul 2024 #46
Here's hoping the vicious cycle turns into a virtuous cycle of pat_k Jul 2024 #57
We're of like mind, pat_k. lanlady Jul 2024 #41
I'm feeling very optimistic pat_k Jul 2024 #56
I believe Joe would have won and all REAL predictors pointed in that direction. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Ocelot II Jul 2024 #51
Maybe, but we've got what we've got now and we have to go forward. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #51
We are not going to lose. Blue_Roses Jul 2024 #45
I'll do you one better: We ARE GOING TO WIN!!! Rorey Jul 2024 #55
Too early to tell, though I do believe if nothing else it will consolidate JohnSJ Jul 2024 #54
Your mileage may vary. CentralMass Jul 2024 #58
$50 million as of 10pm tonight. Raftergirl Jul 2024 #60
There is a fighting chance planj07 Jul 2024 #62
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