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EarlG

(23,593 posts)
56. The big donors wanted him out, and they got what they wanted
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Mon Jul 22, 2024, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Big money talks, and it talks a lot louder than the rest of us who don't have it, so I'd prefer not to be told that what I just witnessed with my own eyes didn't actually happen. "They didn't threaten or blackmail" -- um, yes they absolutely did. Biden ultimately made the choice to step down, and I respect his choice. But that choice was clearly made under extreme duress, thanks to the concentrated efforts of a relatively small number of very wealthy people.

Either course of action -- sticking with Biden, or moving on from Biden -- was a gamble. Maybe the course we're on now was the right course to take, and maybe it wasn't. That still remains to be seen. But it was big money donors who forced us down the path that they wanted to take, so here we are. Now, there are an awful lot of people who are 100% ready to move on and get behind the next nominee, then finish Trump off at the ballot box in November -- myself included. But it doesn't mean that there isn't going to be some lingering resentment over how this all went down.

FWIW, nobody is asking anyone to unilaterally disarm. It's obvious that billions of dollars need to be poured into the system in order for us to stand a chance. What I am lamenting is the fact that billions of dollars need to be poured into the system in order for us to stand a chance. When politics is awash in this much money, it's a breeding ground for corruption.

But that's it, I've said my piece, and I don't really want to fight about this -- what's done is done. What's most important now is selecting an excellent replacement candidate, moving forward, and beating Trump. Once we've done that, there will be plenty of time to talk about campaign finance reform.

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It is imperative that big money be removed from political campaigns and political bribery Clouds Passing Jul 2024 #1
Absolutely. What is your plan to acheive that? We need more Dems for that to happen.And what do we do in the meantime? emulatorloo Jul 2024 #6
A few billionaire citizens untied must be codified as illegal. The activist Extreme Court must be Clouds Passing Jul 2024 #14
We need more guns to protect against the guns. edisdead Jul 2024 #19
If you think Republicans are going to get big money out of politics you're naive. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #29
yep. stop those donations. sure. NoRethugFriends Jul 2024 #53
The only way to reverse those decisions is to elect Democrats and eventually reload SCOTUS. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #9
Then it will never happen. edisdead Jul 2024 #16
"eventually reload SCOTUS"? orthoclad Jul 2024 #33
Congress has constitutional duty to regulate the Supreme Court. I suggest they get on it PDQ.. Clouds Passing Jul 2024 #47
Where in the Constitution does one find that "duty"? onenote Jul 2024 #49
Here: Clouds Passing Jul 2024 #51
Yup, citizens united JohnSJ Jul 2024 #26
Thanks. Never really bought into argument big Democratic donors were pro-trump or doing it for taxes. Silent Type Jul 2024 #2
I'm recommending yr post because these are the facts of life until we get full public financing emulatorloo Jul 2024 #3
Billionaires peachpit24 Jul 2024 #4
I feel bullied. LisaM Jul 2024 #45
Thanks in part to Citizens United, money is a necessary evil. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #5
I donated tonight - not as much as y'all but I do what I can TBF Jul 2024 #7
K&R spanone Jul 2024 #8
So, I have to ask... jmbar2 Jul 2024 #10
I don't find it necessary to post what has already been posted. brooklynite Jul 2024 #15
So what is your purpose jmbar2 Jul 2024 #23
I expect them to get that the campaign has to re-engineer its strategy. brooklynite Jul 2024 #24
That is not my point jmbar2 Jul 2024 #28
The poster never thought, agreed with, nor said that Biden should drop out. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #17
Obviously I can't answer for brooklynite, but I suspect the different audience came into play. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #21
He's got ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #37
Well then we are indeed fortunate that he came to correct our erroneous thinking jmbar2 Jul 2024 #40
I don't ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #42
Whatever happened to beating the opponent with popular policies? leftstreet Jul 2024 #11
I prefer the term "oligarchs" wackadoo wabbit Jul 2024 #12
Well thats some words. edisdead Jul 2024 #13
No "suits" are telling me anything. brooklynite Jul 2024 #18
It would ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #39
I wish I could rec you more than once ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Jul 2024 #25
"I have to accept that the people with money get to circumvent some if the very core values" brooklynite Jul 2024 #27
People just need an alternate narrative Sympthsical Jul 2024 #20
People who take the job of President seriously age a lot in that office. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #22
This is the truth Jilly_in_VA Jul 2024 #55
"Absolutely brutal polls after the debate" dpibel Jul 2024 #30
That AP-NORC poll alone would've done for it Sympthsical Jul 2024 #34
The one after two weeks of freakout? dpibel Jul 2024 #41
No, that was the nail, IMO. Sympthsical Jul 2024 #44
As you know, it wasn't mentionable on this site without people being alerted on or called unpatriotic. SharonClark Jul 2024 #57
The entire argument never made sense. Bleacher Creature Jul 2024 #31
As long as Harris name is on. every ballot in every state, and JohnSJ Jul 2024 #32
All I ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #35
I didn't see it blackmail soandso Jul 2024 #36
Cold hard data? No, it was non-predictive polls that mean nothing this far out. Ah well. UNITE behind Harris NOW. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #38
And Heinrich? Deminpenn Jul 2024 #43
25% tax on unrealized gains Biden proposed -- did they worry? lostnfound Jul 2024 #46
Guys its ok because our oligarchs are benevolent see?? Its all ok! DFab420 Jul 2024 #48
brooklynite, do you think these large donors onandup Jul 2024 #50
"Silicon Valley Donors Bailed on Biden. Kamala Harris Is Winning Them Back" brooklynite Jul 2024 #52
Soo.. -misanthroptimist Jul 2024 #54
If 2/3 of the Democrats wanted a change in the nominee... brooklynite Jul 2024 #58
Are you making things up? -misanthroptimist Jul 2024 #60
The big donors wanted him out, and they got what they wanted EarlG Jul 2024 #56
Every damned word of your post... -misanthroptimist Jul 2024 #59
Very well said! SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #61
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