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In reply to the discussion: Top EU official tells Julian Assange: 'Just go to Sweden and answer the questions' [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)I did see similarities to one poster who mentioned "when you are asleep and assaulted" it is rape. I could see how this would fall over into the Assange case because one claimant against him said that he "forced entry" in the night while she was asleep and then there's the claims that Assange "used torn condom" (which I assume meant he wanted to impregnate her with casual sex by using "torn condom?)
Whatever the claims...both of them were friend of Julian who seemed to have a very good relationship with him. Both of them liking him so much they were willing to share sex with him with in a few weeks time frame.
I won't get into what the circumstances were that one or the other were in bed with him and one claims "torn condom" that she presented to the court (which later turned out to be evidence that wasn't able to be verified) plus what kind of person jerks a condom off the guys part and saves it and then presents it later as evidence when who knows where the condom came from and who did the "tear" that she claims. It would certainly be something that would raise questions from inquiring minds.
The other one is saying he penetrated her when she was asleep in bed with him when they had had "sex before that was consensual between them that night but that she was startled when after she was asleep that he penetrated her again.
I've posted the details that were out there in the British Press awhile back here on DU and so did several others getting into media reports about this.
So..my sense is that you want to come back at me like a lawyer (who has their own readings on their side) with evidence that you won't accept even if I was a Top Lawyer with Degree from Harvard...I won't go further than this...but that the links are there if you do Google or Bing.
There is enough contrary evidence about Assange's Rape charges to disput those who want him tried and put away like Bradley Manning for us to throw evidence/counter evidence against each other in heated posts back and forth here on DU for YEARS...until this winds through the situation with Manning and Assange and how US wants to get both of them to make them an example.
I appreciate that from you.
I've done my reading and research...and I appreciate your reply because at last I see some viewpoint from you that I can understand where you are coming from rather than your
persona. Hopefully there will be discussion from you if you feel as passionately about Assange/Manning's trial and what they contributed to working to end these wars by exposing the lies and lies and more lies that's been going on amongst nations. What BUSH/CHENEY DID! I'm for the TRUTH coming out whatever way it can. Maybe you are too young to remember Vietnam. Maybe I'm old enough to know that what we did there was wrong and we are doing it again. Perhaps that's our difference?
Peace! KoKo (I stand by my ferreting out and reading from many sources and I know you will continue to post your own sources you feel comfortable with.)