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In reply to the discussion: Top EU official tells Julian Assange: 'Just go to Sweden and answer the questions' [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)95. Couple of Articles about ASSANGE...rape, DNA, more allegations...etc. here:
No DNA link to Assange in condom central to sex assault case
Published: 16 September, 2012, 23:57
Edited: 17 September, 2012, 23:35
A ripped condom given to Swedish police by one of Julian Assanges accusers does not contain the WikiLeaks founders DNA, forensic scientists have reportedly found.
In a 100-page document shown to Assanges lawyers, it was revealed that the torn prophylactic, having been examined by staff at two forensic laboratories, did not bear conclusive evidence that Assange had ever worn it, the Daily Mail reported on Sunday.
Assanges lawyers said the lack of DNA evidence on the condom, which was allegedly used during a supposed August 2010 sexual assault, indicates that a fake one could have been submitted.
The woman in question, now aged 33, claims to have been molested by Assange at her flat in Stockholm. She says that at one point he deliberately broke a condom in order to have unprotected sex with her.
Assange claims he had consensual sex with the woman, but denies intentionally tearing the condom. He had previously told police that he continued to stay at her residence for the week following the alleged incident, saying his accuser never made any mention of the ripped condom.
But DNA purportedly belonging to Assange was present on a condom submitted by a second woman, who has accused him of rape, prompting Swedish authorities to push ahead with their bid to have him extradited from the UK.
However, his second accuser, now 29, who claimed to have been raped in her sleep by Assange, apparently told police she had not been opposed to having unprotected sex with him despite previous statements to the contrary, the daily reported.
Assange denies the allegation of rape, maintaining he had consensual sex with the second woman as well. The Swedish prosecutors office refused to comment on the report, saying that the investigation was ongoing.
"The condom DNA evidence was supposed to be the killer evidence Now, when we have found that there is no DNA on one of these condoms for one of the alleged victims, it rather calls into question substantial evidence against him, human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell told RT.
The whistleblower has been holed up at Ecuador's Embassy in London since June, after the UK Supreme Court upheld his extradition warrant to Sweden.
In August he was granted political asylum by the countrys president, Rafael Correa, out of fear he could be handed over to American authorities upon setting foot in Sweden, and eventually charged with leaking classified documents.
Safe passage to Ecuador has not been secured by British authorities, however, as the UK maintains it will arrest him if he leaves the embassy, deporting him to Sweden.
In August, Assange told Ecuador's Gama television network that he expected the diplomatic impasse with the UK to be resolved within a year.
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Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA'
But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does.
Swedish authorities requesting his extradition from Britain to stand trial
First alleged victim claims that Mr Assange deliberately ripped a condom
By Abul Taher
PUBLISHED: 19:31 EST, 15 September 2012 | UPDATED: 19:58 EST, 15 September 2012
Forensic staff could not find any conclusive evidence of Mr Assange¿s DNA on a torn condom given to Swedish police by one of the alleged victims
Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed that a key piece of evidence does not contain his DNA.
A torn condom given to Swedish police by one of the alleged victims was examined by staff at two forensic laboratories but they could not find any conclusive evidence of Mr Assanges DNA on it.
The same forensic teams found DNA thought to belong to the WikiLeaks boss on another condom, which was submitted by the second alleged victim.
The revelation is contained in a 100-page police report that was written after witnesses were interviewed and forensic evidence had been examined.
The report, which has been seen by Mr Assanges lawyers, has led to the Swedish authorities requesting his extradition from Britain to stand trial, though he is yet to be charged with any offence.
Mr Assange, who denies allegations of rape and sexual molestation, has been fighting extradition to Sweden for the past two years. He claims it is a ruse to send him to the United States where he could face trial for espionage.
The 41-year-old is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum by the countrys president, Rafael Correa.
In the report, the first alleged victim, now 33, claims she was sexually molested by Mr Assange at her flat in Stockholm on several occasions.
She also claims that Mr Assange deliberately ripped a condom before wearing it so that he could have unprotected sex with her against her will.
Julian Assange is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum
Julian Assange is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum by the country's president, Rafael Correa.
His lawyers have said that the fact no DNA could be found conclusively on an apparently used condom suggests a fake one may have been submitted.
The report also appears to cast doubt on the claim made by the second alleged victim, who told police that she was raped by Mr Assange when she was asleep.
More........................
Is this the photo that could clear Assange? Grinning for the camera, WikiLeaks boss and 'Woman A' who says he sexually assaulted her 48 hours earlier
Julian Assange's celebrity backers set to lose $540,000 bail money as he remains holed up in Ecuador Embassy
'I'll stay for a YEAR!' Assange pledges to hide in Ecuador's embassy for as long as it takes for Sweden to drop case against him
But during a police interview, the woman, now 29, apparently suggests that she did not mind him having unprotected sex with her.
The Swedish prosecutors office refused to comment on the report but said the case was ongoing.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203920/Condom-used-evidence-Assange-sex-case-does-contain-DNA.html#ixzz2E2pQZArC
Published: 16 September, 2012, 23:57
Edited: 17 September, 2012, 23:35
A ripped condom given to Swedish police by one of Julian Assanges accusers does not contain the WikiLeaks founders DNA, forensic scientists have reportedly found.
In a 100-page document shown to Assanges lawyers, it was revealed that the torn prophylactic, having been examined by staff at two forensic laboratories, did not bear conclusive evidence that Assange had ever worn it, the Daily Mail reported on Sunday.
Assanges lawyers said the lack of DNA evidence on the condom, which was allegedly used during a supposed August 2010 sexual assault, indicates that a fake one could have been submitted.
The woman in question, now aged 33, claims to have been molested by Assange at her flat in Stockholm. She says that at one point he deliberately broke a condom in order to have unprotected sex with her.
Assange claims he had consensual sex with the woman, but denies intentionally tearing the condom. He had previously told police that he continued to stay at her residence for the week following the alleged incident, saying his accuser never made any mention of the ripped condom.
But DNA purportedly belonging to Assange was present on a condom submitted by a second woman, who has accused him of rape, prompting Swedish authorities to push ahead with their bid to have him extradited from the UK.
However, his second accuser, now 29, who claimed to have been raped in her sleep by Assange, apparently told police she had not been opposed to having unprotected sex with him despite previous statements to the contrary, the daily reported.
Assange denies the allegation of rape, maintaining he had consensual sex with the second woman as well. The Swedish prosecutors office refused to comment on the report, saying that the investigation was ongoing.
"The condom DNA evidence was supposed to be the killer evidence Now, when we have found that there is no DNA on one of these condoms for one of the alleged victims, it rather calls into question substantial evidence against him, human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell told RT.
The whistleblower has been holed up at Ecuador's Embassy in London since June, after the UK Supreme Court upheld his extradition warrant to Sweden.
In August he was granted political asylum by the countrys president, Rafael Correa, out of fear he could be handed over to American authorities upon setting foot in Sweden, and eventually charged with leaking classified documents.
Safe passage to Ecuador has not been secured by British authorities, however, as the UK maintains it will arrest him if he leaves the embassy, deporting him to Sweden.
In August, Assange told Ecuador's Gama television network that he expected the diplomatic impasse with the UK to be resolved within a year.
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Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA'
But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does.
Swedish authorities requesting his extradition from Britain to stand trial
First alleged victim claims that Mr Assange deliberately ripped a condom
By Abul Taher
PUBLISHED: 19:31 EST, 15 September 2012 | UPDATED: 19:58 EST, 15 September 2012
Forensic staff could not find any conclusive evidence of Mr Assange¿s DNA on a torn condom given to Swedish police by one of the alleged victims
Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed that a key piece of evidence does not contain his DNA.
A torn condom given to Swedish police by one of the alleged victims was examined by staff at two forensic laboratories but they could not find any conclusive evidence of Mr Assanges DNA on it.
The same forensic teams found DNA thought to belong to the WikiLeaks boss on another condom, which was submitted by the second alleged victim.
The revelation is contained in a 100-page police report that was written after witnesses were interviewed and forensic evidence had been examined.
The report, which has been seen by Mr Assanges lawyers, has led to the Swedish authorities requesting his extradition from Britain to stand trial, though he is yet to be charged with any offence.
Mr Assange, who denies allegations of rape and sexual molestation, has been fighting extradition to Sweden for the past two years. He claims it is a ruse to send him to the United States where he could face trial for espionage.
The 41-year-old is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum by the countrys president, Rafael Correa.
In the report, the first alleged victim, now 33, claims she was sexually molested by Mr Assange at her flat in Stockholm on several occasions.
She also claims that Mr Assange deliberately ripped a condom before wearing it so that he could have unprotected sex with her against her will.
Julian Assange is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum
Julian Assange is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after being granted asylum by the country's president, Rafael Correa.
His lawyers have said that the fact no DNA could be found conclusively on an apparently used condom suggests a fake one may have been submitted.
The report also appears to cast doubt on the claim made by the second alleged victim, who told police that she was raped by Mr Assange when she was asleep.
More........................
Is this the photo that could clear Assange? Grinning for the camera, WikiLeaks boss and 'Woman A' who says he sexually assaulted her 48 hours earlier
Julian Assange's celebrity backers set to lose $540,000 bail money as he remains holed up in Ecuador Embassy
'I'll stay for a YEAR!' Assange pledges to hide in Ecuador's embassy for as long as it takes for Sweden to drop case against him
But during a police interview, the woman, now 29, apparently suggests that she did not mind him having unprotected sex with her.
The Swedish prosecutors office refused to comment on the report but said the case was ongoing.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203920/Condom-used-evidence-Assange-sex-case-does-contain-DNA.html#ixzz2E2pQZArC
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Top EU official tells Julian Assange: 'Just go to Sweden and answer the questions' [View all]
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
OP
The portfolio of the EU Home Affairs commissioner includes matters such as Asylum
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#3
Hmmm. Not sure about that. One issue arising in the Assange case was the question
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#7
You are right---Sweden did issue the EAW. I wonder if her office coordinates the SIS, then. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#41
Her office handles Police Cooperation, so circulating notices of the warrant might have been her job
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#63
A moment ago, you had never heard of her, yet you instantly begin calling her names
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#10
Shhhh...that doesn't fit in with the narrative of persecution. You see, we are supposed to believe
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#46
Why don't the CIA drone operators turn themselves in to Pakistan or Sudan?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#14
WTF does that have to do with Assange answering the questions in a court of law? n/t
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#15
"U.S.Officialswarn about Assange ...Treason" (It's a trap to snare him here for Prosecution)
KoKo
Dec 2012
#19
There are no charges from the US, nor have any attempts to extradite Assange to the US been made.
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#20
No charges have been filed against Assange in Sweden but you don't seem to have any
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#125
Assange is under a sealed indictment in the US. US is the only one with skin in the game.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#109
There have been denials by US officials, I am not sure who or even if they were named.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#118
The credibility of that report is quite iffy, due to its very strange provenance:
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#142
... As Atlantic associate editor Max Fischer argues, “The group’s reputation
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#168
OK: I have in #169, #169, and #170 provided you with 8 links showing
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#172
we are targeting people in other countries that we label "terrorists" with Drone Attacks
KoKo
Dec 2012
#59
Because Obama is a very clever President and he's playing Cat and Mouse with Assange
KoKo
Dec 2012
#76
UK courts have found Sweden wants Assange in order to prosecute him and have ruled
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#18
Daniel Ellsberg: "Assange has every reason to be wary that the real intent here is to whisk him
Zorra
Dec 2012
#17
President Clinton was accused of rape also...Dem President...good...accused rapist,
Zorra
Dec 2012
#25
What charges?? There are no charges. You are taking a false claim made by someone who
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#38
And you have been told time and time and time, etc etc how things work in sweden
Bodhi BloodWave
Dec 2012
#57
Neiter was Assange. Care to post the 'court CHARGES' here? The world has been waiting
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#33
How charming, you post on DU, a US Democratic Political site and accuse Americans of
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#81
Yes, FFS. Your words, despicable words to say to Americans on an American site. If you do
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#85
I don't have disdain for Americans, plural. Just for one very specific American...
SidDithers
Dec 2012
#86
Your words were clear. We are used to such comments, but generally considering the
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#90
You assigned the word 'Rapist' to Assange. I asked you to list the charges because to have that
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#93
Assange fled jurisdiction from Sweden to the UK, before being taken into custody...
SidDithers
Dec 2012
#94
Wrong, he did the exact opposite of 'flee' and whoever told you what his attorney
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#98
Yes, let the courts make that decision. But the Prosecutor does not want this case to go to
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#122
And that woman refused to sign the police report alleging just what you have posted. She
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#99
Keep typing, sabrina. Your voluminous screeds get more and more entertaining...
SidDithers
Dec 2012
#119
And once again, because you keep missing it for some reason. The Prosecutor has the
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#126
I know how the Swedish Court operates. And you KNOW how it operates because I have
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#47
Too bad Assange's attorneys in the UK didn't know all this. They might have argued it in court. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#67
Too bad he had to fire his attorney for his egregious mishandling of the case. However,
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#82
She had every opportunity to arrest him for two years, she declined. Which you know because
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#84
It's neither your business nor mine to pick apart the details of a Swedish court case!
randome
Dec 2012
#105
Given the circumstances why then doesn't Sweden just arrange a video hearing with Assange?
Ya Basta
Dec 2012
#32
UK courts have found Sweden wants Assange in order to prosecute him and have ruled
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#34
Why haven't they charged him in more than two years? Why did they lie when they falsely
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#36
It all went through the UK courts, for a year and a half. Assange's lawyers argued rather along the
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#49
Where are the charges? And why did the Prosecutor lie about being able to take the
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#51
UK courts have found Sweden wants Assange in order to prosecute him for rape
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#103
Assange would be answering Swedish prosecutor's questions in Swedish court's via video link
Ya Basta
Dec 2012
#39
You're welcome to try to get everyone to change their understandings of extradition, so
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#43
Some people, in this thread, do know these facts yet continue to misrepresent them.
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#50
This is the European Arrest Warrant, detailing the offences Sweden seeks answers to:
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#65
Is this what Julian Assange testified to? Can you cite it from testimony of other witnesses? nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#89
Your allegations that the prosecutor lied. Was this presented in the British courts
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#132
It all went through the UK courts, for a year and a half. Assange's lawyers argued rather along the
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#48
There was never any need for extradition. The Prosecutors lied, and when a Prosecutor
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#53
Your claim "British Courts refused extradition for Pinochet" shows how careless you are about facts
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#69
I'm still hoping that there will be some defense of the "losing position." I've asked..
KoKo
Dec 2012
#75
The Manning Trial is going on. My twitter feed tells me the propaganda against Assange has
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#101
'Give himself up'. For what? He has never been charged. You don't give yourself up
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#120
Ah, the old THIRD WAY "hero worship strawman" meme once again. Do y'all have an old list of
Zorra
Dec 2012
#149
Really? Oh, why no, not at all! Just check out this 2 yr old thread from struggle4progress!
Zorra
Dec 2012
#156
It's nothing personal. I even call out my oldest, closest friends when they are trying to bullshit
Zorra
Dec 2012
#159
It is totally disgusting to use an alleged sexual assault as a vehicle for attacking an
Zorra
Dec 2012
#138
I could not agree more. But isn't standard to use Women and Rape to try to emotionally
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#146
Using sexual assault as subterfuge is thoroughly revolting, whether it is used by posters
Zorra
Dec 2012
#152
As FDR said, and I have to say I have always judged myself the same way, about those who
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#153
Now Sid...you realize that's "borderline" for an Alert...but, some of us feel it's
KoKo
Dec 2012
#162
Yes, but I wouldn't alert on these gems. It's revealing to see a man who rarely posts anything
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#166
True..some things are not worthy of alert...it's better to read the thread and have
KoKo
Dec 2012
#179
Lol, I love these predictions. But thanks for reminding me, it's time for another donation
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#165
Australian FOIA Docs confirm Assange "the enemy" In US counter-espionage investigation
KoKo
Dec 2012
#171
A separate release of FOI Docs confirmed by Dept. of Foreign Affairs (AUS) confirmed:
KoKo
Dec 2012
#174
Again, we need to see the FOI documents themselves, to know what they say
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#175
UK courts have found Sweden wants Assange in order to prosecute him for rape
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#177
Assange lost in court again and again, at every level. He lost at Belmarsh,
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#183
No court system will guarantee anything to someone wanted for questioning and/or arrest.
randome
Dec 2012
#178