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97. Not lowering the notch. An normal 8 year old does not rationalize as well as a normal 9 or 10

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:55 PM

Dec 2012

year old or as an adult. The issue is how much the girls has seen or experienced at 8 years old. I am not a parent, but I do have nephews and nieces that are very young, one of the most amazing things in life for me to to occasionally look at one of their reactions to observing something and after thinking for a moment recognize that they had never seen what they observed happen before. Young children have not seen a lot, including a lot of danger, my saying that there needs to be some safeguards to protect them is not placing a lower estimate on their intelligence or humanity.

Could the parents been more proactive in warning their child? Certainly. But I am willing to bet my life that some other person has been bitten when lifting empty plates that had held fish, so SeaWorld could have done more to insure that 8 year olds don't get bitten.

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Family Mad After Dolphin Bites Girl at SeaWorld, But 8-year-old broke the rules (video) [View all] Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 OP

Family is outraged Lasher Dec 2012 #1

That's obviously all these assholes are after. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #68

Whiney little brat dballance Dec 2012 #2

everyone knows - don't mess with an animal's food. Anyone ever try to remove food from a kitten? Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #7

I have lost a lot more blood to kittens angry about me touching their food than that kid lost. nt Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #11

cat protecting her food Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #39

Yep, same with many animals. Don't F with animals when eating, the kid's own fault IMO. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #104

Really? She's a little fucking kid. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #13

A little fucking kid with shitty fucking 'parents'. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #17

Yeah because you've always done exactly what you're told right? abelenkpe Dec 2012 #19

Oh, I have kids. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #33

"But they always did what they were told. " ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #59

I misspoke DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #71

I don't think you are deliberately telling ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #93

I took a different route. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #98

Just knock the breath out of them. morningfog Dec 2012 #132

An adult should not have to resort to physical violence to control a child. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #183

You call the girl her told her mom she was out of fish morningfog Dec 2012 #130

Who needs school? DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #138

Yeah, I don't believe you. morningfog Dec 2012 #140

Well, that's that, then... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #154

I assume they paid their fair share on all of those AlexSatan Dec 2012 #192

Well... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #172

I keep screwing this up... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #173

OK DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #174

OK DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #175

OK, I keep screwing this up.... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #180

OK DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #182

Yeh, who needs school? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #191

Fuck, I didn't realize it was all about wintering in Belize. wtmusic Dec 2012 #201

Your comments are ridiculous dballance Dec 2012 #233

LOL! morningfog Dec 2012 #236

Do we know exactly what they were told? Here is another video at the same Sea World Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #20

Precisely how does one control the free will of others? LanternWaste Dec 2012 #50

Well, as a first step, slutticus Dec 2012 #60

How do you keep a dog from biting or a horse from bucking? DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #61

Cool story Bill. Son of Gob Dec 2012 #107

the truth Go Vols Dec 2012 #164

I don't think I've heard a truer, more genuine story in my life. Son of Gob Dec 2012 #170

Thank you, Son of Gob... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #184

LOL "Today, they are wildly successful purveyors of pot." wtmusic Dec 2012 #211

The kid's action was instinctive. She was having fun feeding the fish and ran out of food bluestate10 Dec 2012 #69

Very true. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #117

The only part with which I have a bit of a problem... Atman Dec 2012 #227

What "it" is told. Yeah. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #94

Would you think it would be cool.. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #99

I don't see what one has to do with the other. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #108

I think you're way off dballance Dec 2012 #114

Forget I said anything at all. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #123

I never said she deserved to get bitten for not following the rules. NEVER dballance Dec 2012 #135

Well enough. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #163

Perhaps so, but it didn't quite come off that way to me. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #168

You refer to a kid as an "it." What is wrong with you. morningfog Dec 2012 #109

"It" is a product... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #127

The kid picked up a plate. morningfog Dec 2012 #128

Especially true when around wild animals. n/t AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #188

Yep, she is IDoMath Dec 2012 #27

I can understand learning a lesson, but a 'whiny brat'? AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #43

Maybe not yet IDoMath Dec 2012 #55

She's a whiny brat because dballance Dec 2012 #56

And that's your excuse? AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #64

My Excuse? I'm seeking no excuse and no pardon dballance Dec 2012 #70

Get off your high horse. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #74

Right after you do. /eom dballance Dec 2012 #88

How many kids were there that didn't get bitten? Atman Dec 2012 #229

When ships leave port they love to see dolphins swimming and diving around their bow dballance Dec 2012 #234

You are rude, uncivil and misquoting me dballance Dec 2012 #51

+1 treestar Dec 2012 #223

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"The spawn of stupid fucking breeders." Even to the point here of letting RKP5637 Dec 2012 #105

My ire is for the parents Warpy Dec 2012 #89

A jury will never see this. It will settle before that and the family will get money. morningfog Dec 2012 #133

Excellent, Warpy... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #160

It was simply a good set of lessons for the kid AlexSatan Dec 2012 #190

Sorry, but before I was 5 I learned about feeding animals. From a dog. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #252

It's not her fault. Just a kid. The parents don't seem TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #25

I love the mother's tone of voice when she says "we're not going to show it to anybody" KurtNYC Dec 2012 #48

Yep, and yet it's going viral on the internet now dballance Dec 2012 #58

Maybe not brat. But my Mom would've said, "See? What did I tell you?" Kid should've been supervised Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #72

My thoughts exactly. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #76

Yes, especially since the bite treestar Dec 2012 #221

Responses like this no longer surprise me in the old DU nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #112

Thank You. Totally agree with that statement. dballance Dec 2012 #116

You have your right nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #120

Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with this place? morningfog Dec 2012 #137

I gave up trying to figure it our a while ago nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #141

and these posters pulled the same shit on another thread Maine-ah Dec 2012 #215

she didn't 'whine' at all, she cried after being bitten, which 99% of kids would. And she HiPointDem Dec 2012 #161

we're talking about a 7 year old. Maine-ah Dec 2012 #214

Whiney? SHe is a little girl and she got bit Marrah_G Dec 2012 #216

Well, there seems to be an issue with making comments about a kid dballance Dec 2012 #230

I feel sorry for the little girl but would like to avebury Dec 2012 #3

Yeah, I don't think SeaWorld should be sued, either. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #44

Dolphins don't ask a lot of us humans htuttle Dec 2012 #4

lol Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #5

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9

can I like this post? n/t brokechris Dec 2012 #14

! Kali Dec 2012 #31

Yeah, but check it out: that dolphin is smiling. Squinch Dec 2012 #53

LOL! Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #65

DUZY! lol Evasporque Dec 2012 #197

Running it through the ole translator ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6

I live in the Atlanta area and this video has been shown RebelOne Dec 2012 #23

+1 mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #186

+1,000,0000 IDoMath Dec 2012 #29

Exactamundo! If I were SeaWorld, I'd sue them in perpetuity for traumatizing my sea mammals. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #75

Or, better still a rule 11 sanction against them IDoMath Dec 2012 #86

I think I like it, despite the fact that our legal system is far too skewed in Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #92

With wild animals the owners creeksneakers2 Dec 2012 #145

And that is entirely stupid. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #219

Frivolous is a very low standard. morningfog Dec 2012 #146

+1 wtmusic Dec 2012 #212

Like the lady at Costco told me... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #8

I feel your pain REP Dec 2012 #16

Oh, you shouldn't have mentioned handprints. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #21

You should follow one of these families Lasher Dec 2012 #30

Funny you should mention that.. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #47

Mine is a coupe ... If I found a li'l screamer IN my car ... REP Dec 2012 #42

Well. That Indian motorcycle with an original sidecar IS an attractive nuisance. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #84

Many parents IMO have no F'ing idea how to raise kids. I see them all the time in grocery stores, RKP5637 Dec 2012 #111

Yep DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #115

Comeback Warpy Dec 2012 #176

Better yet. "Where's your car?" Barack_America Dec 2012 #194

If they're tourists, it's probably a rental Warpy Dec 2012 #225

Kids get bitten all the time at petting zoos with a single, tiny drop of blood emerging like here Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #10

My local Aquarium has a tide pool petting area - 4 kids to reach in and touch star fish, urchin, Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #37

So long and thanks for all the fish. ( n/t ) Make7 Dec 2012 #12

Damn!! Beat me to it!!! nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #38

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Safety should not depend on an eight year old following instructions jberryhill Dec 2012 #15

Then these experiences will have to go away IDoMath Dec 2012 #32

b/c dolphins ain't amazing unless you're throwing squid at 'em in a tank elehhhhna Dec 2012 #46

Yep IDoMath Dec 2012 #54

Saving the habitats is what we need. Seaworld should go. morningfog Dec 2012 #144

So we can all just go visit those habitats, then? IDoMath Dec 2012 #156

What in the world makes you think they exist for our viewing pleasure? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #177

When did I say that? IDoMath Dec 2012 #204

"All" would not go on such visits, nor should they. morningfog Dec 2012 #193

that's what national geographic is for elehhhhna Dec 2012 #237

They SHOULD go away jberryhill Dec 2012 #118

I'm not just talking about Dolphins. IDoMath Dec 2012 #122

These things have nothing to do with nature jberryhill Dec 2012 #126

Huh kwolf68 Dec 2012 #198

It's a vicious cycle IDoMath Dec 2012 #202

No, common sense should depend on parents not being too stupid to live. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #79

Cetacean behavior has nothing to do with "common sense" jberryhill Dec 2012 #131

Good post. yardwork Dec 2012 #158

I agree with this gollygee Dec 2012 #199

I agree. nt ecstatic Dec 2012 #207

I don't think the kid was being a brat, she just forgot the rule when she ran out of fish. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #18

Exactly. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #77

agreed. sea world would be well advised to reexamine this arrangement though, because HiPointDem Dec 2012 #157

Yeah. If they know it's a problem when they raise the plates, maybe the sea world people could Squinch Dec 2012 #83

I can't imagine anyone thinking children hand feeding doplhins to be a good idea! hedgehog Dec 2012 #22

Why not? I did IDoMath Dec 2012 #34

Great, how about kids hand-feeding raw meat to the big cats next. eShirl Dec 2012 #178

OK, sounds good. IDoMath Dec 2012 #205

Dog fights are impressive too jberryhill Dec 2012 #203

80% of captive dolphins are now born in captivity IDoMath Dec 2012 #206

Well that's good to know jberryhill Dec 2012 #218

Zack: They also said dolphins might be smarter than people. TheManInTheMac Dec 2012 #24

They wanted $100,000 for that incident. Quantess Dec 2012 #26

What damages have occured that total 100K? Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #28

Hopefully they will fight. IDoMath Dec 2012 #35

They won't and the slimy parents will settle for $10,000.00 former-republican Dec 2012 #81

No, they will pay the lesser of the settlement or the cost to fight IDoMath Dec 2012 #87

Free the slaves and this won't happen! MoonRiver Dec 2012 #36

Bravo!!! UtahLib Dec 2012 #80

This is a tough one. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #40

I wonder if CPS is involved yet? Kali Dec 2012 #41

you poor thang Skittles Dec 2012 #45

I just want you to kick my ass! Kali Dec 2012 #82

OMG! Look at that injury! Whovian Dec 2012 #49

The dolphin should have been killed immediately. former-republican Dec 2012 #52

That's sarcasm, right? IDoMath Dec 2012 #57

why do you think it's sarcasm? slutticus Dec 2012 #62

. former-republican Dec 2012 #63

Because underneath my many layers of misanthropy lies and optimist? IDoMath Dec 2012 #66

What rule did she break? It looks like she was holding something up AWAY from the water while bluestate10 Dec 2012 #67

That might have been helpful, IMO. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #78

"How many 8 year old kids follow instructions. " and we lower the bar another notch. n/t IDoMath Dec 2012 #91

Not lowering the notch. An normal 8 year old does not rationalize as well as a normal 9 or 10 bluestate10 Dec 2012 #97

Rationalizing was not necessary. kiva Dec 2012 #100

I'm sure she was okay in the morning.. snooper2 Dec 2012 #134

This is a public amusement, open to any jberryhill Dec 2012 #150

My guess is that she will follow instructions next time AlexSatan Dec 2012 #195

Team Dolphin MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #85

+1 Agschmid Dec 2012 #103

The Poor Dolphin was Probably More Traumatized than the Kid Iggy Dec 2012 #90

She's lucky she didn't get Politicalboi Dec 2012 #95

I attempted to remove my chihuahua's Helen Reddy Dec 2012 #96

Gee, I walked in front of a car and it hit me, who wouldah thought ... no sympathy RKP5637 Dec 2012 #101

That dolphin belongs in the ocean, and these dolphin encounter things are fucking stupid. LeftyMom Dec 2012 #102

Exactly!!! And well said!!! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #106

+1 n/t Chan790 Dec 2012 #119

*applause* A-fucking-men. flvegan Dec 2012 #124

So far none. LeftyMom Dec 2012 #129

Definitely hating kids. flvegan Dec 2012 #136

Agreed. Animals are not here for our entertainment. morningfog Dec 2012 #139

Brava! yardwork Dec 2012 #159

+1 eShirl Dec 2012 #185

Touche! Carolina Dec 2012 #224

Wow! And you're a mom? Pool Hall Ace Dec 2012 #235

The parents and child were told the safety rules. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #110

just so you all know this thread has gone meta Dems50State Dec 2012 #113

The way I look at it.... Nolimit Dec 2012 #121

I think the father planned to have this happen. He wanted to video tape the hand Dems50State Dec 2012 #125

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #142

Good! People shouldn't get near dolphins trapped in tanks. morningfog Dec 2012 #143

Come on , don't blame the kid former-republican Dec 2012 #151

I don't blame the kid at all. morningfog Dec 2012 #152

Child feeds wild animal, makes CC Dec 2012 #147

Heres an idea don't keep animals in captivity that were never meant to be kept in captivity Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #148

Yes, and they should be given freedom. Cleita Dec 2012 #166

All dolphins and pitbulls should be killed. Like, right now. flvegan Dec 2012 #149

Squirrels ALSO former-republican Dec 2012 #153

Also children. Ever had one of those little shits bite you? LeftyMom Dec 2012 #155

Although I am sympathetic, this is kind of an assumed risk when feeding wild animals, and she did cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #162

Stupid fucking parents... MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #165

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #167

What part of "wild" don't people get, even in domesticated animals? lonestarnot Dec 2012 #169

Meh frostfern Dec 2012 #171

So long and thanks for all the fish AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #179

Theyshouldn't have kids under 16 in those situations. I don't know if the girl was scared or teasing Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #181

Family to Seaworld: "It's YOUR fault we didn't follow the rules." AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #187

Nothing more reliable on DU than a little child hate. Glad to see we have not lost our way. CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #189

Nah, let's just excuse them when the break safety rules AlexSatan Dec 2012 #196

Young children move extremely fast and ecstatic Dec 2012 #209

It it was as bad as you describe AlexSatan Dec 2012 #231

Or we can call them names and insult their intelligence the good ol way CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #213

Using that logic AlexSatan Dec 2012 #232

Dolphin needs to be trained to eat in the wild... NCTraveler Dec 2012 #200

The food mainstreetonce Dec 2012 #208

This entire process is cruel to dolphins and should be banned. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #210

+ 1. Excellent point. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #217

Going on vacation to Sea World makes one "over privileged?" Atman Dec 2012 #228

People are stupid.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #220

What bugs me more about this kid is the way she addressed treestar Dec 2012 #222

It would be funnier if her name was Trillian instead of Jillian. Ian David Dec 2012 #226