"Handguns...exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing....

[Sancho]

145. I know all about CCW...and it doesn't change the logical problem....

even in my youth (and generations before), you had a different world when original laws and constitutions were written. Today, the guns in the hands of your grandmother with a single shooting class are not a big problem. The problems are the guns in the hands of people who are emotional, ill, or criminal. There is no barrier to prevent the terrible mayhem caused by hormonal youth and mentally ill from obtaining powerful weapons. You can even be a self-appointed neighborhood guard here and go around shooting folks when you don't know what you are doing...there are no reasonable controls. Criminals can buy whatever they want at gun shows.

I wouldn't outlaw guns, but I'd make it a much more comprehensive process to obtain guns or ammunition. If you are an ok person, it's just like a driver's license or fishing permit; mostly inconvenient. If you possess a gun or ammunition without a current license, you'd loose the gun, go to jail, be evaluated, and face a serious penalty. If you want a more powerful gun, you would need more training and checking to get the permit.

In Florida, a DUI costs you your license, insurance, and about $5000 in lawyer's fees to get your license renewed and your car back. Meanwhile, you may spend the weekend in jail. Why not guns?

Also, you have to have insurance for your car, boat, and home. Why not require gun owners to carry insurance? It would cost you a bunch unless you attended safety classes, etc. That's another way to control unlawful gun use. If you posses a gun without insurance, you should lose the gun on the spot. Those insurance companies would quickly figure it out.