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exboyfil

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28. I agree that I am sickened by children
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:03 AM
Dec 2012

who throw away an expensive education because they do not participate in the process. We are spending $250K over the K-12 for the child, and parents and students that do not appreciate that expenditure should be criticized. At the end of the day I think that is at the heart of the homeschool and charter/voucher movement. With homeschooling the garbage associated with learning in the classroom is eliminated. With charter/voucher parents are trying to select their children's peers to be ones that are engaged in the process.

Recent example. My 11th grade daughter had a study hall with her journalism teacher. She used the study hall to get additional work done for her broadcasts (such as putting shows together and editing the content of her stories). In our school's infinite wisdom they decided to go to a study hall model in which the struggling students are in smaller classroom study halls while the non-struggling students go to the cafeteria study hall. That is bad enough. My daughter cannot get any studying done in this environment because of the noise. She can't get her stories done now during the study hall time either. The cherry on top is that the person running the study hall would not even release her so that she could practice her violin. My daughter is a 4.0 student who is also a full-time preengineering student at a community college. She can't get released to practice her violin?

The same thing with my 9th grade daughter last year. She had her study hall with the life sciences teacher. He was allowing her to do extra dissections in the study hall. His class was benefitting from the specimens which I purchased for her to dissect as he could expand his presentation of the material. She gets put into the cafeteria model as well because she is not struggling.

Homeschooling is looking better and better for my younger daughter. We may decide that getting the High School diploma is not worth the additional garbage associated with retail education. I already Homeschooled her in English and Social Studies to avoid substandard instruction/curriculum. She hit the jackpot on good teachers this year so she went back to full-time. Next year? I am not so certain.

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kr HiPointDem Dec 2012 #1
It's like they went to Finland, to study what makes them the best... immoderate Dec 2012 #2
Heh heh, that is the truth. madfloridian Dec 2012 #6
well....... madrchsod Dec 2012 #3
Sounds like Duncan's found his "comfort level" and can't bring himself take a step outside. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #4
Teachers call that "low level thinking." n/t savebigbird Dec 2012 #9
Good point. madfloridian Dec 2012 #12
K&R Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #5
This is true everywhere radical noodle Dec 2012 #7
I agree that parents should sholder a big share of the blame. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #8
It may be more of a battle than some people think. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #19
+ 1 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #44
Andy Rooney said, years ago on a 60 Minutes commentary, "We don't need better teachers." SharonAnn Dec 2012 #52
K&R savebigbird Dec 2012 #10
Shitty communities full of people with shitty values make shitty schools Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2012 #11
That's because the parents don't belong to a union. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #13
Great Post... Iggy Dec 2012 #14
this local education system is falling apart Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #15
I see the end result of this. kiva Dec 2012 #16
The system is scary kylie5432 Dec 2012 #17
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #18
Thank you kylie5432 Dec 2012 #25
Glad to have you aboard my friend. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #26
Wow, thank you for that post. madfloridian Dec 2012 #24
An options school? SheilaT Dec 2012 #27
one more example of why our school system needs more funding liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #37
Welcome to DU. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #38
There are good teachers & horrible teachers, just as there are bad students & irresponsible parents Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #20
So, it's BLAME THE PARENTS NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #21
The term "blame game" reeks of talking points. madfloridian Dec 2012 #23
Gosh, education advice from a self-described rapist. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #35
FYI your post was alerted on. Here are the results Heddi Dec 2012 #39
Juror #6--my new hero! Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #42
+1 obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #43
teachers, students, and parents should not be blaming each other period liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #36
A lot of students come to class with "pre-existing conditions" Mr. Blue Sky Dec 2012 #47
K & R proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #22
I agree that I am sickened by children exboyfil Dec 2012 #28
Thank you! LostinRed Dec 2012 #29
Very Happy to read your writing Madfloridian.... midnight Dec 2012 #30
Here's a couple of instances told by honor students in Florida madfloridian Dec 2012 #31
I've taught in the US and in China. wickerwoman Dec 2012 #32
Love this part of your post. madfloridian Dec 2012 #34
+1000000000 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #40
Awesome post as always. blackspade Dec 2012 #33
I fear you are right about Duncan. madfloridian Dec 2012 #58
Instead of blaming, LWolf Dec 2012 #41
Totally agree...my wife is a teacher in an inner city school... Mr. Blue Sky Dec 2012 #46
How many woes in our society would be solved if we would just address poverty? CrispyQ Dec 2012 #48
"a culture that does not value intellect, that prides itself on ignorance" madfloridian Dec 2012 #49
Just like patients--students come to their teachers with "pre-existing conditions" Mr. Blue Sky Dec 2012 #45
Good point about "pre-existing conditions". madfloridian Dec 2012 #51
Why oh why couldn't Arne Duncan offered his retirement. progressoid Dec 2012 #50
He should have done so. madfloridian Dec 2012 #53
One can hope. progressoid Dec 2012 #57
K & R for future reading Lifelong Protester Dec 2012 #54
TPTB know this foolishness is happening, yet they don't say a word. Not a word. madfloridian Dec 2012 #55
From this educator... trayfoot Dec 2012 #56
Thanks. madfloridian Dec 2012 #59
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