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dballance

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46. As a matter of fact I believe yes

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:30 PM

Dec 2012

I don't think the 1st Amendment is anymore of a blank check for absolutely any sort of speech than I think the 2nd Amendment is a blank check for absolutely any sort of gun ownership.

If you believe otherwise I think you're being overly literal with regard to the text of the amendments and completely unreasonable in the face of reality.

I don't think we do enough to curb hate speech or other disgusting utterances because everyone yells "1st Amendment." We've already decided that it's inappropriate to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater when there is no fire. So perhaps we should examine some of the other crap people yell either in public or on the internet that is also absent of a basis in reality or humanity.

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FoxNews.com Columnist Attacks Bob Costas For Correctly Drawing Connection Between Guns And Murder [View all] onehandle Dec 2012 OP

Exactly. What Costas said shouldn't be controversial. DanTex Dec 2012 #1

Costas blames the "gun culture" but BJS reports black offender rate is 7 times white rate. Since jody Dec 2012 #2

I think that graph Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #6

I used the same descriptors that BJS did. Costas used "gun culture" whatever that is so there should jody Dec 2012 #7

That graph has nothing to do with "race culture." morningfog Dec 2012 #33

You didn't include this graph. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #37

Seem to be showing your true COLORS with this post. Whovian Dec 2012 #39

That's kinda what I thought too Whovian. Jazzgirl Dec 2012 #42

you're anti-black today, anti-union yesterday CreekDog Dec 2012 #57

What? gollygee Dec 2012 #59

he's trying to make unions seem like a prison CreekDog Dec 2012 #60

Its not the race culture. Its the poverty culture. phleshdef Dec 2012 #62

Costas was also quoting Fox Sports commentator Jason Whitlock. n/t Little Star Dec 2012 #27

Plus the energy required to pull a trigger Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #3

What laws would have prevented this??? I will be waiting! Logical Dec 2012 #4

Don't hold your breath dballance Dec 2012 #5

Please explain the "incorrect reading" to which you refer. nt jody Dec 2012 #10

Okay, here it is. dballance Dec 2012 #19

Under the NRS's interpretation can I own a tank? Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #28

Well, if they follow Scalia (which they do), you could have up to a RPG. morningfog Dec 2012 #34

Tanks and other armored vehicles are legal to own. oneshooter Dec 2012 #40

My cousin has 2 OriginalGeek Dec 2012 #58

Can the government sarisataka Dec 2012 #45

As a matter of fact I believe yes dballance Dec 2012 #46

Then we have some agreement sarisataka Dec 2012 #51

Yes, I do think we agree dballance Dec 2012 #55

I don't have access to Belcher's personal Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #8

No "license" is required to own a gun! Maybe he had a conceal and... Logical Dec 2012 #12

Except new gun laws that would take the lethal gun away Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #14

I agree only if belcher had a police report or incident that was reported, and... Logical Dec 2012 #15

In the case of Belcher and most families Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #18

There is only ONE thing a gun is designed to do: kill. ananda Dec 2012 #9

Obviously you don't know about the Olympic shooting events and other lesser matches. nt jody Dec 2012 #11

Yes. A gun's secondary purpose is to strike a target violently. onehandle Dec 2012 #20

Which is the simulation of killing. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #32

Killing what? Paper? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #38

Apparently you missed the word "simulation." Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #47

There is only ONE thing a Knife is designed to do: kill. Berserker Dec 2012 #13

Not hardly. RC Dec 2012 #16

Guns are multi-purpose. onehandle Dec 2012 #23

Epic Fail in your argument dballance Dec 2012 #24

lol. Do you use a gun to chop your onions? morningfog Dec 2012 #35

I spent 15 months in-country Vietnam an I do not own a gun madokie Dec 2012 #17

You Sound Like My Relatives Who Did WWII Service. Paladin Dec 2012 #22

Thats me madokie Dec 2012 #26

Johnson calls someone else "discredited" on gun matters? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #21

I agree with his size and strength he could have easily found other ways but the gun being added Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #25

John Lott is darling of gun culture -- even co-wrote book with bigoted gun nut Grover Norquist. Hoyt Dec 2012 #29

As Mike Lupica Said "How Many Home Runs Would Babe Ruth Have Hit Without A Bat." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2012 #30

So many people who pull that trigger woefully regret doing so and snapped. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #31

Very good points. Guns kill quickly and efficiently in moments of rage. morningfog Dec 2012 #36

He could have killed her in any number of ways wtmusic Dec 2012 #43

the gun made the homicide more likely. barbtries Dec 2012 #48

Gotcha. wtmusic Dec 2012 #49

you need to be gentle barbtries Dec 2012 #50

The enormous amount of planning OJ went through wtmusic Dec 2012 #52

thanks! barbtries Dec 2012 #53

Cool wtmusic Dec 2012 #54

Did Costas mention the nexus between head injuries and violent behavior/suicide? I doubt it. Romulox Dec 2012 #41

Shhh. Marinedem Dec 2012 #44

Actually he addressed the problem with head injuries and such on Bill Maher's show just a month.... phleshdef Dec 2012 #63

More of the same bongbong Dec 2012 #56

Kick & Rec. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #61