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Tommy_Carcetti

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47. Apparently you missed the word "simulation."

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:36 PM

Dec 2012

And again, no, I have nothing against target shooting or competitive shooting in and of itself. But it is the simulation of shooting to kill/injure, which is the sole intended purpose of guns. Hence, you'll often see targets such as these:

And sure, archery is also simulated killing. That's neither here nor there.

The main point that I want to drive home though is that guns have a sole intended purpose. They aren't cars, as some gun proponents love to compare them with, as cars are intended to get a person from one place to another, and deaths as a result of cars are incidential to their intended purpose. And when you have an item whose intended purpose is to kill or injure, I do believe the threshold for regulation needs to be greater.

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FoxNews.com Columnist Attacks Bob Costas For Correctly Drawing Connection Between Guns And Murder [View all] onehandle Dec 2012 OP

Exactly. What Costas said shouldn't be controversial. DanTex Dec 2012 #1

Costas blames the "gun culture" but BJS reports black offender rate is 7 times white rate. Since jody Dec 2012 #2

I think that graph Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #6

I used the same descriptors that BJS did. Costas used "gun culture" whatever that is so there should jody Dec 2012 #7

That graph has nothing to do with "race culture." morningfog Dec 2012 #33

You didn't include this graph. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #37

Seem to be showing your true COLORS with this post. Whovian Dec 2012 #39

That's kinda what I thought too Whovian. Jazzgirl Dec 2012 #42

you're anti-black today, anti-union yesterday CreekDog Dec 2012 #57

What? gollygee Dec 2012 #59

he's trying to make unions seem like a prison CreekDog Dec 2012 #60

Its not the race culture. Its the poverty culture. phleshdef Dec 2012 #62

Costas was also quoting Fox Sports commentator Jason Whitlock. n/t Little Star Dec 2012 #27

Plus the energy required to pull a trigger Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #3

What laws would have prevented this??? I will be waiting! Logical Dec 2012 #4

Don't hold your breath dballance Dec 2012 #5

Please explain the "incorrect reading" to which you refer. nt jody Dec 2012 #10

Okay, here it is. dballance Dec 2012 #19

Under the NRS's interpretation can I own a tank? Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #28

Well, if they follow Scalia (which they do), you could have up to a RPG. morningfog Dec 2012 #34

Tanks and other armored vehicles are legal to own. oneshooter Dec 2012 #40

My cousin has 2 OriginalGeek Dec 2012 #58

Can the government sarisataka Dec 2012 #45

As a matter of fact I believe yes dballance Dec 2012 #46

Then we have some agreement sarisataka Dec 2012 #51

Yes, I do think we agree dballance Dec 2012 #55

I don't have access to Belcher's personal Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #8

No "license" is required to own a gun! Maybe he had a conceal and... Logical Dec 2012 #12

Except new gun laws that would take the lethal gun away Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #14

I agree only if belcher had a police report or incident that was reported, and... Logical Dec 2012 #15

In the case of Belcher and most families Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #18

There is only ONE thing a gun is designed to do: kill. ananda Dec 2012 #9

Obviously you don't know about the Olympic shooting events and other lesser matches. nt jody Dec 2012 #11

Yes. A gun's secondary purpose is to strike a target violently. onehandle Dec 2012 #20

Which is the simulation of killing. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #32

Killing what? Paper? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #38

Apparently you missed the word "simulation." Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #47

There is only ONE thing a Knife is designed to do: kill. Berserker Dec 2012 #13

Not hardly. RC Dec 2012 #16

Guns are multi-purpose. onehandle Dec 2012 #23

Epic Fail in your argument dballance Dec 2012 #24

lol. Do you use a gun to chop your onions? morningfog Dec 2012 #35

I spent 15 months in-country Vietnam an I do not own a gun madokie Dec 2012 #17

You Sound Like My Relatives Who Did WWII Service. Paladin Dec 2012 #22

Thats me madokie Dec 2012 #26

Johnson calls someone else "discredited" on gun matters? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #21

I agree with his size and strength he could have easily found other ways but the gun being added Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #25

John Lott is darling of gun culture -- even co-wrote book with bigoted gun nut Grover Norquist. Hoyt Dec 2012 #29

As Mike Lupica Said "How Many Home Runs Would Babe Ruth Have Hit Without A Bat." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2012 #30

So many people who pull that trigger woefully regret doing so and snapped. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #31

Very good points. Guns kill quickly and efficiently in moments of rage. morningfog Dec 2012 #36

He could have killed her in any number of ways wtmusic Dec 2012 #43

the gun made the homicide more likely. barbtries Dec 2012 #48

Gotcha. wtmusic Dec 2012 #49

you need to be gentle barbtries Dec 2012 #50

The enormous amount of planning OJ went through wtmusic Dec 2012 #52

thanks! barbtries Dec 2012 #53

Cool wtmusic Dec 2012 #54

Did Costas mention the nexus between head injuries and violent behavior/suicide? I doubt it. Romulox Dec 2012 #41

Shhh. Marinedem Dec 2012 #44

Actually he addressed the problem with head injuries and such on Bill Maher's show just a month.... phleshdef Dec 2012 #63

More of the same bongbong Dec 2012 #56

Kick & Rec. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #61